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Hi!

I'm very interested in taking a scuba course but am not sure which route to take. I've heard PADI, SSI, YMCA, etc. courses all teach the same basics, and that having a quality instructor is really what makes the course worthwhile. Therefore, can anyone recommend a good intro-to-scuba program in New York City?

Thanks in advance.

Gretta :huh:
 
A friend of mine recently did a referral with Pan Aqua on 43rd near 10th if I remember correctly. She did her classroom and pool work with Pan Aqua and the open water dives in the carribean with a shop down there. You might also think about Village Divers, down at 4th st near 2nd. Personally I am more the Village Divers type.

I have not personally had any experience with the instruction at either shop since I was already a diver before walking in to either shop, but I have heard good things about both of these shops, and I have made purchases at them both.

Mark Vlahos
 
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Hi Gretta,
Welcome to Scubaboard!

All of the angencies you mentioned are good agencies. I'm not familiar with what is available in the NYC area, so Its hard to say which would be best suited for you. I would think that all are likely well represented in that large a metropolitan area. Where I live here in Arkansas, the only logical choice was PADI, but that may not be so there in New York? I would first try to locate all the dive shops in the area which provide instruction. Then begin narrowing it down by visiting thier facilities and visiting with some of thier instructors. You will likely begin to get a good feel for one that you like the best based on the criteria you value most. I think the New York City area is well represented by divers on these boards, so I feel certain you will get some good recommendations by others who know the dive operations in that area.

You will see lots of opinions from people on different agencies. There are a lot of tech divers on Scubaboard that dislike PADI, and wont pass up an opportunity to trash it. Take all advice with a grain of salt and a pound of objectivity. If your goal is to dive the Andria Doria..perhaps NAUI or SSI is the way to go, but if your just looking to dive the occasional reef or shallow wreck (less than 130 feet) PADI can and will meet your needs. Good Luck and Enjoy!! :14:
 
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Welcome Gretta! I'm not familiar with NYC, but (1) I think you'll probably have MANY good options (2) I expect others from the area to chime in. If you don't get a very good response, try posting your question in the geographic forum that covers the NE.

For intro training, I think you have 3 main choices: PADI, SSI and NAUI. I went the PADI route because here in Indiana, that really all that's available. I don't really think you can go wrong with either of the three. I'd also suggest running some searches, both here and in Google, for dive centers in NYC. Begin to learn about them through their websites ... locations, training options, equipment sales ... you really can learn alot online. From a training perspective, I focus alot on how active their training department is. Do they seem to offer alot of classes and do they have a good volume of folks rotating through them for training. That's always a good sign I think.

Good luck!
 
Gretta:
Hi!

I'm very interested in taking a scuba course but am not sure which route to take. I've heard PADI, SSI, YMCA, etc. courses all teach the same basics, and that having a quality instructor is really what makes the course worthwhile. Therefore, can anyone recommend a good intro-to-scuba program in New York City?

Thanks in advance.

Gretta :huh:
good day Gretta..I teach here in NY..Have been an instructor since 1971..Training facility located in NYC on city island in the bronx..Captain mikes diving 718-885-1588..Small classes,training dives done locally,on a boat close to store, not 2+ hours away . Owner is former NYPD scuba team Detective,has been profiled on tv shows such as TOP COPS /Regis&cathy lee etc...5 star padi facility..I will give you any necessary info you need,just pm me for details if you like.
 
Where in NYC do you live? There is a great shop in Brooklyn, which I used. It offers free refresher courses for anyone who graduated from the shop (perfect for vacation divers). SSI has something called "Try Scuba" program which you can do in a pool (I think). PADI has something called "Discover Scuba" program.
If you want to do the discover Scuba program, I would recommend you to do it in carribeans rather than NYC. Diving around NYC is a bit more difficult (colder, less visibility) than the keys in FL or carribeans. This way, you get more excitement out of it rahter than freezing your butt off in NYC right now.
 
Gretta:
Hi!

I'm very interested in taking a scuba course but am not sure which route to take. I've heard PADI, SSI, YMCA, etc. courses all teach the same basics, and that having a quality instructor is really what makes the course worthwhile. Therefore, can anyone recommend a good intro-to-scuba program in New York City?

Thanks in advance.

Gretta :huh:

Well, I've heard that too, but it's not exactly accurate. There are big differences in what they require their instructors to teach.

I recommend students ask questions to determine the quality of instruction they're likely to receive. My recommended questions (and comments) are:

How long have you been teaching?

Most instructors improve over time. They learn new techniques and get ideas from other instructors and through experience to improve their classes.

Do you certify all your students?

Only instructors who are in a hurry and care nothing about your safety will answer yes. You want an instructor who will require you to be safe and knowledgeable before issuing a c-card. An excellent instructor might tell you that he is willing to keep working with a student until the student either qualifies or gives up.

What skin diving skills will I learn?

While there is some disagreement on this point, many professionals believe a solid foundation in skin diving will not only make you a better SCUBA diver, it will make learning SCUBA easier.

Will I learn confidence-building skills?

There are some skills which have no direct application to a typical dive, but which do build your confidence as well as your abilities. This, combined with an understanding of the panic cycle, will make you much less likely to panic.

Do you teach the panic cycle?

Panic is the most dangerous aspect of diving. Many instructors do not understand panic and believe there is no way to combat it. In actuality, panic is understood. It is though learning the panic cycle and by increasing skill levels that panic is avoided.

Do your students swim with their hands?

This will let you know if the instructor pays attention to details. Good divers do not use their hands for swimming.

Do you work on trim/body position?

Divers should be horizontal in the water. Good instructors will see that students are striving towards good trim. Poor instructors often neglect it.

Do you overweight your students?

Many instructors overweight students. It is not a good practice.

What method do you use to correctly weight your students?

Any answer that does not involve actually getting in the water means you want to avoid that instructor.

Is the instructor patient?

While talking with your potential instructor, you should be getting a feel for his personality. Patience is an important quality for an instructor. You want to avoid instructors with a drill sergeant demeanor.

Would I be happier learning from a man or a woman?

Only you can answer that question, but in general it is not usually a serious consideration. There are excellent instructors and there are poor instructors. Men and women fall into both groups.

How many people will be in my class?

Small classes are better. You'll have more individual attention. Unless the instructor is using assistants, more than four students are difficult to watch.

How many certified assistants will you be using?

Unless the class is relatively large (more than 4 students) this should not be an issue. An instructor should have a certified Divemaster or Assistant Instructor for every two students over four. There are times when divers working on their Divemaster or Assistant Instructor certifications assist with a class. This is normal and not an issue, but they do not count toward the assistants an instructor should have when working with larger classes.

Will I be learning skills kneeling on the pool bottom or mid-water?

This question is not critical, but will let you know if you've found an instructor who has a great deal on the ball. The over whelming majority of instructors (even good instructors) teach skills kneeling on the bottom. Don't eliminate instructors who do. Some instructors have realized your mask will flood while you are swimming, not when you are sitting on the bottom. You need to learn skills in the manner in which you'll be using them.
 

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