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Just got a DR Transplate and making final adjustments before trying it out in the water. One thing I noticed was that the wing was a little loose on the bp. I took the wing off and noticed that the nuts are manifolded leaving about 1/4 inch gap when fully tightened. This caused the wing to slightly pivot around the bolt and bp. Is this normal or should I just add some washers to tightly secure the wing to the backplate?

Thanks in advance from a noobie bp/w diver.
 
lawofgravity:
Just got a DR Transplate and making final adjustments before trying it out in the water. One thing I noticed was that the wing was a little loose on the bp. I took the wing off and noticed that the nuts are manifolded leaving about 1/4 inch gap when fully tightened. This caused the wing to slightly pivot around the bolt and bp. Is this normal or should I just add some washers to tightly secure the wing to the backplate?

Thanks in advance from a noobie bp/w diver.

Something sure isn't right.

What adapter/wing combination are you using?

My Koplin STA has studs that pass through the wing and plate.

I use self locking nuts to fasten.

Washers will probably work for you, but, why should they be required?
 
lawofgravity:
Just got a DR Transplate and making final adjustments before trying it out in the water. One thing I noticed was that the wing was a little loose on the bp. I took the wing off and noticed that the nuts are manifolded leaving about 1/4 inch gap when fully tightened. This caused the wing to slightly pivot around the bolt and bp. Is this normal or should I just add some washers to tightly secure the wing to the backplate?

Thanks in advance from a noobie bp/w diver.


I'm not sure I understand your setup. Are you using a single tank adapter (STA) or are the cam straps passing through the BP?

What do you mean by manifolded nuts?

Are the fasteners being used only to secure the wing to the plate?

Tobin
 
I have the same set up. And yes, the wing is not RIGIDLY held to the plate. But it isnt needed to be. The cam straps also are woven through.

I have put a few dives on my rig and there is no problem with it.

keep us posted what you do
rich
 
Thanks for the replies. It's the standard DR Transplate package with Trek wings, double cam bands, no STA, used for single tank diving only. Cool hardware, I'm not sure if I defined the nut correctly. Think of it as a 1/4 inch long cap nut. When the bolt is threaded fully, it still leaves a 1/4 inch gap along the thread. By the sounds of it, the wing shouldn't be loose on the bp, but once the tank is attached, the cam bands will secure everything to the bp. No?
 
lawofgravity:
Thanks for the replies. It's the standard DR Transplate package with Trek wings, double cam bands, no STA, used for single tank diving only. Cool hardware, I'm not sure if I defined the nut correctly. Think of it as a 1/4 inch long cap nut. When the bolt is threaded fully, it still leaves a 1/4 inch gap along the thread. By the sounds of it, the wing shouldn't be loose on the bp, but once the tank is attached, the cam bands will secure everything to the bp. No?


LOG,

I'm not following your description of the nuts, but in any event as long as the tank is larger than the slots in the wing (which it is by a long shot) there is no way the wing can leave the plate, or even slide around when the cambands are secure. Bolting the wing to the plate just aligns it while you secure the tank.


Regards,



Tobin
 
IslandHopper:
As long as the TANK is held securely/rigidly to the plate, it's OK if the wing has a little play in it.
If that little bit of play is translated to the TANK, then something's not right.


Islandhopper,

I agree completely. In most cases if the tank is secure to the plate some portion of the wing will be trapped between the tank and the plate.

If the tank is rocking or slipping, it must be corrected before using.


Regards,


Tobin
 
Again, relax....I dive the exact same rig and there is not a problem...or if there is...I havent noticed it.

The stainless steel screws I have are NOT wing nuts though. And, I bet yours are not either if you are diving a DR rig. I get the feeling some are thinking butterfly nuts. What i have is a female side with a flat top and a male side with a flat top. One has a slot for a regular screw driver. And, when you put the wing on and screw down the screws.....yes there is some slack space ....the screw is NOT tight. Basically all it does is keep the wing from falling off when you pick it up without the tank. But notice the tank cam bands go through the wing AND the backplate and when you put tank on the rig and secure it down with the two cam straps.....that wing isnt going anywhere.

I got the Rec wing for doubles and it is pretty big....still no problem. My control is just unreal. Glad i got the rig.

If it would make your feel better though,, go to www.northeastscubasupply.com
and get their number and call and ask for John. Tell him what the situation is
and he will square you away. They are a DiveRite certified TecRec dealer. They sell the same rig and that is where I got mine.
Take care.
Rich
 
Richinnc is correct. I have the same rig and it is fine. It only has play when it is NOT on the tank. Once you put the BP/W on the tank, it doesn't move at all and is very stable even without a STA. Just make sure you don't lose the bolt or screw when the BP/W is just laying around as it doesn't screw in much and can come loose from general use. I do think that it shouldn't be loose at any time but it does get that way so what to do. It doesn't effect it's stability once rigged up. BTW, the bottom bolt shouldn't have any play as it is bolted through the harness as well. Only the top bolt moves a little. Atleast that's the way mine works, also by north east scuba mentioned above.
 

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