I don't have a QR on the left side for easy out, really I don't.
OK, I do. But after next month, I suppose I won't.
I suppose...
OK, I do. But after next month, I suppose I won't.
I suppose...
BP/W (Proper Donning and Doffing)
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You have a QR? Can I feel morally superior now?
Only until after his fundies course.
His QR will come off in short order.
In fact, it may require rectal removal after his fundies instructor gets done with him.
His QR will come off in short order.
In fact, it may require rectal removal after his fundies instructor gets done with him.
Blackwood
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PerroneFord:
Do let us know if you ever attempt the flip technique with doubles!
Well, Rick and I can head for the Harborview ER together (I know the way
) and he can get his QR back, and I can get my long, thin fins with the plastic buckled springstraps back. Maybe they'll give us a two-fer price?I adjust my harness for diving comfort, not for getting in and out. I keep my harness pretty tight so that my gear does not move around, but not where it is pulling back on my shoulders with my arms in their normal position. Getting in and out of the harness with it adjusted tight is still very easy to do.
I seem to remember being taught two techniques: over your head and off the back. Over your head is a bit rough above water because you have to hold your gear above or on top of your head, and that can be a bit heavy, especially with doubles. Underwater it is much easier and it will maintain the relative position of all your gear: you can flip it off and place it in front of you, fix whatever motivated you to doff your gear in the first place, and then flip it right back over your head and onto your back. It has a slightly higher potential for knocking your mask off.
I used to practice that technique back when I used to practice, but I have slowly migrated to the lazier, mentally riskier but physically less risky solution.
Coming out of the gear by moving forward and away was taught as well. This can be accomplished by moving the straps off of your shoulders (right d-ring to the right, left one to the left), pointing your arms straight with your hands behind you, at about waist height, and then moving away from the plate. You can get into the harness the same way: both arms at the same time. Problem with this solution is that you must reorganize your gear when donning (making sure everything is positioned correctly).
There is absolutely no reason to have a quick release if you use either of those methods (i.e. a QR would be entirely unwarranted without even considering the failure argument). IMHO, QRs are for people who can't get past the one arm at a time solution (i.e. chicken winging is the problem that needs addressing, not a shortcoming in the harness that makes it difficult to doff or donn).
I seem to remember being taught two techniques: over your head and off the back. Over your head is a bit rough above water because you have to hold your gear above or on top of your head, and that can be a bit heavy, especially with doubles. Underwater it is much easier and it will maintain the relative position of all your gear: you can flip it off and place it in front of you, fix whatever motivated you to doff your gear in the first place, and then flip it right back over your head and onto your back. It has a slightly higher potential for knocking your mask off.
I used to practice that technique back when I used to practice, but I have slowly migrated to the lazier, mentally riskier but physically less risky solution.
Coming out of the gear by moving forward and away was taught as well. This can be accomplished by moving the straps off of your shoulders (right d-ring to the right, left one to the left), pointing your arms straight with your hands behind you, at about waist height, and then moving away from the plate. You can get into the harness the same way: both arms at the same time. Problem with this solution is that you must reorganize your gear when donning (making sure everything is positioned correctly).
There is absolutely no reason to have a quick release if you use either of those methods (i.e. a QR would be entirely unwarranted without even considering the failure argument). IMHO, QRs are for people who can't get past the one arm at a time solution (i.e. chicken winging is the problem that needs addressing, not a shortcoming in the harness that makes it difficult to doff or donn).
PerroneFord
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Blackwood:
Funny you should mention this. I strapped on a set of LP95s last weekend, and was sorely tempted to try it. But discretion was the better part of valor and I used the tables.
I tell ya, those tanks are a different kind of heavy to the AL80! I can only IMAGINE those guys with the pumped up LP121s!!
For removal Joe Talavera told me to clip off my primary reg to the right D-Ring, then use the hose as a "handle" to gently pull the right side off - you could also grab your backup light if it's clipped off - even easier if you have a backup light on both sides. For the left side I just put my thumb into the D-ring, but Joe said you could do the same with the inflator hose - it's held to the D-ring by the piece of bungee.
Has anyone ever tried a harness system that goes over your rite should into your left hip and from your rite shoulder onto a quick release and into your left hip. It creates an X on your chest.
Has anyone experienced getting in and out that kind of harness setup?
Has anyone experienced getting in and out that kind of harness setup?
I have tried and semi-liked crossing the harness behind my neck...crossing across the chest...never seen...not even heard of it suggested as an alternative...have you? does it work? I´m trying to wrap my mind about what it would do my setup but failing...wouldn´t things like d-rings end up way off?
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