bp/w harness type and time of use

[tomboyy]

Are you saying you don't use your DSS setup? If so, I might be willing to buy the plate/harness off you.

No I'm not saying that.

I use a DSS back plate and a DSS wing just not their webbing. Tobin makes an excellant backplate and wing .

 

[cool_hardware52]

OK 1 last post on this topic since some are still missing the point.
Regardless of the percentages, if the percent of divers that make a choice is greater than 0 then those divers choices and opinions should be respected. The term majority is largely useless excespt to create a debate where a debate should not exist.
And using terms like "largely unnecessary" to trivialize the manority opinion is actually what is unnecessary.

Wow, PC and minority sensitivity runamok. Will there soon be a national comfort harness advocacy group? NAACH?

I use the term largely unnecessary because it correctly describes exactly what I have observed.

A new diver, who has never used a BP&W, finds them intimidating looking and they try to blend what they "know" i.e. the conventional BC, with the unknown, the BP&W by purchasing a "comfort" harness.

Many discover, sometimes on their own, and sometimes with the benefit of mentoring that they don't need the chest strap, and or the QR buckles, or the ability to adjust the harness while wearing it.

Their pre purchase perception is replaced with post purchase reality.

Soon the chest strap is removed, and the buckles aren't being opened, the diver just dons and doffs the harness like a single piece. These pieces have become (gasp!) largely unnecessary. (oh the horror!)

The next the comfort harness is retired and replaced with a single piece, because the entire thing has, become unnecessary.

I've seen it happen over and over and over.

Tobin

 

[Codyjp]

Tobin, do you ever feel like this ??

 

[DevonDiver]

and exactly what does your reply have to do with with the original poll/question ?

It explains why people involved in this debate have different perspectives and starts to explain why those perspectives exist.

In doing so, it develops the debate by looking behind the viewpoints to see where they originate from.

Not what people have chosen...but why they made those choices and what influenced them.

Is this the advanced forum or tech forum ?

It's the advanced forum. The topic is here because both recreational and technical divers utilise BP&W BCDS.

That is why I was suggesting that off-shoot discussions about 'tech agency' approach to standardised configurations be reserved for the forum that specialises in that aspect of diving.

Keep the advanced forum discussions away from in-depth tech methodology debate, so that non-tech qualified divers can understand them.

I find it disturbing that as SB staff you'll attemp to down grade other SB members when their OPINION doesn't match your own... should I refer to the OP's question/poll again ?

When did I down-grade anyone?

I simply stated that divers who are not qualified in technical diving are unlikely to have sufficient understanding of technical diving to debate technical diving issues without risk of mis-appreciation.

Please stop being so needlessly confrontational.

 

[tomboyy]

"it would be wise for the non-tech diving qualified members of this debate to recognise the limitations of their knowledge "

"Ignorance is bliss"

"They won't 'dumb down', just because the risks lower."

Thats such a self percieved sublime way of saying things.



"Please stop being so needlessly confrontational"

Is this the point where you limit my involvement because your a mod and I'm not agreeing with you. You keep talking about tech yet we are in a advanced forum.

 

[Cave Diver]

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