BDSC
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Yes. It would be called buglary here in the states. Don't know how it's defined over there. Glad we have that cleared up now. I'm sure the person who was burglarized feels better knowing the difference.
Be careful in Bonaire (Burglaries)
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Yes. It would be called buglary here in the states. Don't know how it's defined over there. Glad we have that cleared up now. I'm sure the person who was burglarized feels better knowing the difference.
MikeSK
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Stuff was stolen. Semantics really make no difference at all. Robbery/burgulary, its all basically the same thing.
I've only been there once, but i definetly hope to go again. I didn't have any issues, but i've been reading about thefts on the island for what seems like ages now. And....most of those issues have been on Bonaire.
Papa_Bear
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To me it is not the same thing! One you are threatened, faced with a threat, and confronted! The other you are not, only your property is at risk! Two different ways of protecting yourself as well!
Next I understand the potential harm in publishing names of resorts etc, but the right to know is more important! If I said a "Certain big food chain is killing people with bad food" you would demand to know! Ever heard of the Tylenol Case? It wasn't their fault but it had to be known and like it or not some targets are easier than others! I am a businessman and understand, but the common good is more important!
I also hope it will push your association into more active role in tourist protection! If you have read my post you know I take personal responsibility, but information is the most important part of forewarned is forearmed!
Next I understand the potential harm in publishing names of resorts etc, but the right to know is more important! If I said a "Certain big food chain is killing people with bad food" you would demand to know! Ever heard of the Tylenol Case? It wasn't their fault but it had to be known and like it or not some targets are easier than others! I am a businessman and understand, but the common good is more important!
I also hope it will push your association into more active role in tourist protection! If you have read my post you know I take personal responsibility, but information is the most important part of forewarned is forearmed!
dvrliz1
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Papa,
I agree the right to know is important, hence my statement to contact the resort/accommodation/hotel for security information.
Is it fair if you have an accommodation who has very little security, and is broken into often, but the victims do not post here or other boards? Is it fair to have the names of the accommodations which are popular on the boards and have good security and have break ins much less often to be singled out by having their names put on a board? Believe me there are such instances, not only on Bonaire but worldwide.
Part of personal responsibility is taking action regarding your own safety. Contact the resort/accommodation/hotel, etc, wherever in the world you stay and ask questions. Period.
I agree the right to know is important, hence my statement to contact the resort/accommodation/hotel for security information.
Is it fair if you have an accommodation who has very little security, and is broken into often, but the victims do not post here or other boards? Is it fair to have the names of the accommodations which are popular on the boards and have good security and have break ins much less often to be singled out by having their names put on a board? Believe me there are such instances, not only on Bonaire but worldwide.
Part of personal responsibility is taking action regarding your own safety. Contact the resort/accommodation/hotel, etc, wherever in the world you stay and ask questions. Period.
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Actually, there is a big difference between the two. In other threads we try to be accurate, why not in this one?
Technically it is burglary, not robbery. My mistake (I have a habit of always saying robbery, even figuratively). Although, one couple told us they were asleep in their room when "things were taken". This will be my last reply to this thread. I only wanted to give a warning since I had wished somebody had done the same for us. Good luck to everyone on their future travels.
Papa_Bear
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As you might get from my posts I am a Bonaire supporter and will not detour me from traveling to your Beautiful Divers Paradise! I understand and see the point about the accommodations being different is scope and postings, but we are a smart bunch and knowledge is everything, in lieu of Crime reports identifying hot spots! It is not an easy one to solve, but I always favor turning the light on
With all due respect, that's like asking the barber if you need a haircut. From a customers perspective, the actual resort isn't an objective source of information.
I wouldn't say that people who have been robbed are objective either, but I do think that most divers are adult enough to read the various accounts and decide for themselves how important the issue is to them.
Nothing destroys trust faster than a call to suppress information.
dvrliz1
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fireflock,
I do not think it is the same as asking the barber if you need a haircut. You are inquiring as to what the barber USES to cut hair, a razor or scissors, therefore you can make a decision if you want your haircut from him/her. I am not asking for suppresion, rather for the client to be informed. If an actual resort tells you it has security measures in place that it does not, then by all means call them out.
I do not think it is the same as asking the barber if you need a haircut. You are inquiring as to what the barber USES to cut hair, a razor or scissors, therefore you can make a decision if you want your haircut from him/her. I am not asking for suppresion, rather for the client to be informed. If an actual resort tells you it has security measures in place that it does not, then by all means call them out.
ScubaSteve
Wow.....what a DB
With all due respect Liz, you are asking here for the customer to be told that the measures are in place (never to be told if they are sufficient or not because the source is 100% biased) and only to complain once they get robbed.
I understand your concern but you are in fact asking to suppress information.
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