Banned from diving for a locked out backup computer?

[Jarrett]

No... MOST dive ops will NOT let you dive if one of them is violated. Figure out which one you want, then sell/give away/destroy the other (ebay is full of 'em).
ALL dive ops will alow you to continue to dive IF...
#1 - they allow diving without a computer to begin with AND...
#2 - you've been planning your dives and loggin them correctly and can dmonstrate it to them (proving that the computer was just your backup) AND...
#3 - you have a timer, SPG, and depth gauge.

Where is a Dive op that doesn't allow computers? Or one that requires a non-computer based bottom timer? Why would I get rid of a perfectly good computer? Are you sure you aren't making some of this up to concur with your method?

 

[Diver Dennis]

It seems to me we should not be looking for excuses for someone to get back in the water if they violate their computer. Anyone who bends their computer is not watching what they are doing so they deserve to sit on the boat.

 

[jhelmuth]

Jarrett,

Did you read that correctly? Go back and see if you still understand what I said.

 

[jhelmuth]

It seems to me we should not be looking for excuses for someone to get back in the water if they violate their computer. Anyone who bends their computer is not watching what they are doing so they deserve to sit on the boat.

Excellent response Dennis! Good point!

 

[CIBDiving]

... I am beginning to believe I would like a more conservative computer initially as I get into diving. Something that theoretically keeps me a bit safer.

A computer can't keep you safe. It only makes recomendations YOU keep yourself safe.

So since I am unhappy with the Aeris a bit, want good PC interface software, and would prefer a more conservative algorithm; I am thinking about buying a Suunto and making it my primary and moving the Aeris to backup.

That's a pretty good plan. You always follow the advice of the most conserative computer.

So I am wondering if for some reason my Suunto gets locked out on one of these trips, will the DMs allow me to continue on the Aeris? Or is that even a concern?

Doubt you'll have a problem.

Oh the last point, I am one of those high tech lazy newbies that don't see a ton of value in doing the tables when the computers do that for you so much better. I know that's probably a thread ender, but again, its the reality of the situation.

That's fine (some of the problem here is they'll let the DIRs out of their cage but won't let us in thiers ). Just remember though, that thing doesn't care a rats petuti if you get bent or not - It's up to YOU to understand what information the computer is giving , why it's giving you that info and what that data means.

 

[Jarrett]

It seems to me we should not be looking for excuses for someone to get back in the water if they violate their computer. Anyone who bends their computer is not watching what they are doing so they deserve to sit on the boat.

I guess this makes the point, that if I have an Aeris and Suunto computer, I can never use the Aeris as a primary?

 

[lamont]

how are people locking out their computers? didn't they notice the little flashing lights telling them not to ascend above 10 fsw? and if you're getting your computer into deco (even if you think its 'overly conservative') and can't hold a 10 fsw stop...

"danger will robinson! danger!"

meanwhile, just do the deco. if you've got so much deco on your computer that you can't do it on even an Al80 with 500+ psi left, you're doing something wrong (and if you're coming up to 10 fsw with a deco obligation and less than 500 psi -- "danger will robinson! danger!").

if you go low on the psi because of the stop and the diveop is all anal retentive about the 500 psi rule, lie and tell them you've got 500 psi.

if they wonder why you were doing such an extended safety stop just say that you dive more conservatively on repetetive profiles.

...

then there's always gauge mode...

 

[Jarrett]

Thanks CIB!

 

[Diver Dennis]

I guess this makes the point, that if I have an Aeris and Suunto computer, I can never use the Aeris as a primary?

I can't say I know exactly how much difference there is between the Aeris and Suunto but it seems the Suunto is the more conservative, which is why I bought that brand, so I guess that might be the case. That said, I have never felt limited in any diving I have done with the Suunto.

 

[Jarrett]

I can't say I know exactly how much difference there is between the Aeris and Suunto but it seems the Suunto is the more conservative, which is why I bought that brand, so I guess that might be the case. That said, I have never felt limited in any diving I have done with the Suunto.

On group dives, you never have to go up before the folks with the Pelagic computers? (Oceanic, Aeris, Sherwood) If I am reading the specs correctly, Suunto users should have to go up before them everytime unless they are choosing to end their dives early or have their Pelagics set more conservatively.