Backplate weight?

[Humuhumunukunukuapua'a]

Dunno...I'm a hunt n peck guy too...

 

[Humuhumunukunukuapua'a]

Gee thanks guys. Minor point though. The webbing slots are overmolded with a elastomeric (rubbery) thermoplastic that's a blend of polypro and natural rubber. We use a pretty stiff grade, 87 shore D, but it still has a little "give" Delrin is essentially ridgid.

Tobin

Right on Tobin...had a feeling I had that wrong. In any event it's a darn nice feature

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[LG Diver]

Do you already have the Oxycheq wing? I'm sure you know this already, but no STA is necessary with the DSS singles wing.

No offense to Tobin, the DSS rig looks like a very nice rig and is clearly is highly regarded here, but let's consider for a moment that different people have different preferences when it comes to wings and I like the Oxycheq wing (yes, I've read the monster threads on donut vs horseshoe wings). If we accept that as the working premise, can I get an answer to the original question?

 

[Humuhumunukunukuapua'a]

Sure...I still recommend the same, but I'll say what I say to everyone who mixes these hybrids. You're wasting money on a non-issue. The day you're off balanced or whatever in a DSS wing will be the day little fuzzy munchkins come flying past you under water. The air balances across the sides of the wing perfectly, exactly as it would in a donut.

I'd still get a DSS plate. It's just better equipment and addresses your various weighting needs.

In the end, though, satisfy your singles needs. You're thinking too far ahead about the doubles. Who knows what you'll want if you ever go that route.

Good luck!

 

[alo100]

Sure...I still recommend the same, but I'll say what I say to everyone who mixes these hybrids. You're wasting money on a non-issue. The day you're off balanced or whatever in a DSS wing will be the day little fuzzy munchkins come flying past you under water. The air balances across the sides of the wing perfectly, exactly as it would in a donut.

I'd still get a DSS plate. It's just better equipment and addresses your various weighting needs.

In the end, though, satisfy your singles needs. You're thinking too far ahead about the doubles. Who knows what you'll want if you ever go that route.

Good luck!

Would you mind elaborating a bit about the balance?
The donut is usually more preferable than the horse shoe...
and the I think most DSS wings are of duel bladders, right? No balancing issue?

 

[LG Diver]

Would you mind elaborating a bit about the balance?
The donut is usually more preferable than the horse shoe...
and the I think most DSS wings are of duel bladders, right? No balancing issue?

No, No No!!! This is not a horseshoe vs donut thread!!!!

Let me put my question in DSS-speak... If you were diving a DSS single tank rig with weight plates, would you remove the weight plates when you went to doubles?

 

[Humuhumunukunukuapua'a]

Would you mind elaborating a bit about the balance?
The donut is usually more preferable than the horse shoe...
and the I think most DSS wings are of duel bladders, right? No balancing issue?

I think you're confused about "dual bladders". It just means the bladder is protected by an extra TOUGH layer of nylon. It's a durability thing more than anything.

What I meant, is that basically any wing is two columns of air alongside your tank. The narrower the wing the better. Tobin's wing is the narrowest around I belive...narrower than Oxy anyway. The air on either side of the tank moves back and forth freely as needed any time you go to trim position. You have to flip almost upside down to get a donut to equalize the air across the bottom connection.

Anyway, to me, it's a non-issue. If donuts were so superior, Tobin would make one, or nobody would like Tobin's wing. Neither is true. Try em and you'll see why. Donuts are a solution in search of a problem IMO.

They're both great wings for sure, but it's definitely not worth the extra money, STA, and loss of the beauty of Tobin's total system to get the donut "benefits" IMO.

Cheers

 

[cummings66]

I'll answer your original question. Buy the lighter plate and wear weights.

I'll chime in with the DSS crowd, I love mine and I have the weight plate as well. It's a great system that you can expand to meet the needs of the dive at hand, and the way Tobin has designed makes it a bit more compact compared to others.

I've got a buddy who dives a config very similar to what you proposed, it works fine for him and will most likely work fine for you. I bought my DSS rig based on his and have got to say that I like it better. It's those little odd's and ends that add up and make it nicer.

I will say this, if you buy the DSS plate the weights are almost manditory in cold water if you don't like carrying a lot of weight on a belt. It also balances out well and you can remove them very quickly if needed.

Either system works, I just like the DSS better.

 

[cool_hardware52]

No, No No!!! This is not a horseshoe vs donut thread!!!!

Let me put my question in DSS-speak... If you were diving a DSS single tank rig with weight plates, would you remove the weight plates when you went to doubles?

LG,

That exactly what I do. My singles rig uses 8.1 bolt plates. When I dive my LP 85's I remove the plates, every thing else, weight wise stays the same.


Tobin

 

[LG Diver]

LG,

That exactly what I do. My singles rig uses 8.1 bolt plates. When I dive my LP 85's I remove the plates, every thing else, weight wise stays the same.


Tobin

Thanks Tobin. FYI- the responses to this thread speak volumes to the quality of your products. I also think very highly of the fact that you didn't jump in and start "selling". This thread has caused me to seriously reconsider my decision.

-John