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brdr882

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Hi all-

I am a high school junior still looking into my future (out of hs). I'm very interested in persuing time in the millitary for moral obligations and other reasons and well looking into this i found that the army has a diving unit for salvage and demolition and other things. Already being a diver this program interested me. My parents want me to go to college before i join the millitary, which i fully support, so i was wondering if anyone knew anything about this program or someone who does and if this is something i could do with an ROTC program. Thanks!
 
brdr882:
Hi all-

I am a high school junior still looking into my future (out of hs). I'm very interested in persuing time in the millitary for moral obligations and other reasons and well looking into this i found that the army has a diving unit for salvage and demolition and other things. Already being a diver this program interested me. My parents want me to go to college before i join the millitary, which i fully support, so i was wondering if anyone knew anything about this program or someone who does and if this is something i could do with an ROTC program. Thanks!

It's an enlisted job!!!
http://www.goarmy.com/JobDetail.do?id=83

More details...
http://members.tripod.com/~thede/scuba.html
 
One ...go to college. Get the best education you can in something worthwhile...in demand.

Two..like PC says above, it is an enlisted soldiers job...not an officers. While an officer will be in charge and maybe get a dive or two in....that is not their purpose. Having been an officer, you have your own responsibilities to maintain.

Three...personally...(here comes the flames) ...I would stay away from the military no matter what other job I had to take to do so. I spent 20 years in so I am speaking from experience.

And the biggie....remember....the recruiters are hurting for people like crazy right now. Quotas have tanked for some time. Even the Marines are not meeting their numbers. What does that mean?? That the recruiters will tell you anything to get you to sign up. And, the key point there is, no matter what you sign up for, there is a little clause known as the...."for the benefit of the Army"" ...which means you might have signed up to dive...but they need bullet launchers (infantry) ...guess where you are going.

Get that college education.
 
RICHinNC:
Three...personally...(here comes the flames) ...I would stay away from the military no matter what other job I had to take to do so. I spent 20 years in so I am speaking from experience.

At least at this time...
 
Yep....

here is another tag for ya......

"Build a fire for a man and he will stay warm for one night.......douse him in napalm and light him up, he will stay warm for the rest of his life."

Just some of the warped things you learn......
 
If you are interested in the military route, I would advise you that for officers there are only a handful of positions for lieutennants and captains in the Army's engineer dive units. The chances of getting one of those positions are next to nothing.

On the enlisted side, a four-year degree would bring you in as a specialist (E4). Depending on the contract you worked out you could be slated for a dive engineer position. Of course, fail the school, the needs of the Army change, or any one of a number of other things happen, and you at at the mercy of personel command. Not to mention it would be a bad return on investment to go to college for four years and end up a specialist in the Army.

Just my thoughts.
 
You've chosen the new combat diver's badge as your avatar so I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. Being on a SF Scuba team will get you dive time and the above posters are correct that you will dive more on the enlisted side of the house. Of course you could go to college, get your commision, then try out for SF, and then go on to lead a SCUBA team but that is a long path. Actually both paths are long ones but give you some unique skills and you will certainly get to travel quite a bit :)
 
Hey there. I have a bit of experience in what you're considering so I may be able to help you. I graduated HS in 1999 and college in 2003. Towards the end of my senior year of college I decided on a career change and enlisted in the army under the 18X (special forces recruit) program after graduation. My idea was to be a SF medic and hopefully get myself assigned to a SCUBA-capable unit. Plus, the army paid back my student loans. I went through infantry basic training, airborne school, a SF pre-course, and ultimately SF selection. Unfortunately I failed SF selection (by one little land-navigation point) and was reverted to my initial MOS, which was infantry. I was miserable. Having that little extra rank as an E4 made no difference to my unit, I was treated like any new guy they don't trust or respect. Plus, my work was not exactly stimulating (it ain't all like you see in Black Hawk Down) and I was subject to NCOs who frankly had the IQ of a retarded tree-sloth, and a chip on their shoulder because I had more education than they did. This is where having a college degree saved my butt. My CO, PL and Platoon Sgt recognized that I was actually a fairly intelligent individual and assigned me some of the more intelligence-oriented (and cushy) jobs you can have in an infantry platoon. More than that though, with my degree I had options. As someone who was already an E4 I could have gone back to SF selection anytime and pursued that route again. I could have put in a packet to go to OCS and become an officer (my CO and battalion commander would have put me through in a heartbeat). Even if I had decided to ride my enlistment out and to get a government job after the army (FBI, CIA, etc) I would have already had the degree required. Ultimately though I decided to go to medical school under an Army Scholarship program (since I already had my degree and had taken the MCAT before I enlisted). I was accepted to a school and my Battalion Commander recommended me for the scholarship even though I had 3 years left on my initial 5 year enlisted commitment. Now I am a 2LT instead of a SPC, essentially living a civilian life going to medical school on the army's dime. If I play my cards right I may still find myself in a dive-capable unit as their Dive Medical Officer.

The moral of this little story is that I was miserable as an enlistedman, but having that degree opened up options to do other things that I will enjoy much more while still serving my country. Whatever you decide to do, ROTC or enlist, get the degree first. You won't regret it.

A
 
Don't be turned off by the military bashers around. My father retired after 22 years in the Navy and had an very rewarding carrer. So much that I am now a Navy Midshipman and will be getting commisioned in April. I'm in ROTC and was selected for spec.ops. which means I'm heading to Navy dive school once I graduate.

My advice, get your degree. Go to an Academy or ROTC and get it for free. I will graduate completely debt free. Then I get the best dive training in the world for free and its all transferable to the commercial world. Don't go Army, go Navy/Coast Guard/NOAA if you want to dive. If you want to lead be an Officer, if not enlist.

I'm living the dream.
 
mmadiver:
Don't go Army, go Navy/Coast Guard/NOAA if you want to dive.

The Coast Guard has very few divers. I've met some of the Navy divers, good folks!

~Isaac
 

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