Are there any regulators made in USA?

[jellycatsdad]

The current American capitalist system discourages that. But that system is not inviolate. Indeed it is not the American capitalist system that existed in the '50s and '60s that many look back to as the peak of US manufacturing both in terms of quantity and quality (relative to other countries).

You can have a system that encourages sustained growth and long term thinking among both producers and consumers of goods. The answers as to how you achieve this are inherently political so I'm not going to go into it. Except to note that these answers revolve around tax policy and labor rights (hint, look at how these have changed since the '60s). Tariffs, by themselves, do nothing but drive up prices in the short term and drive down quality (by reducing competition) in the longer term.

The American consumer is a price-point driven one. Our love for low prices and the big box store(particularly Walmart, but Target won’t escape my scrutiny) is partly why we’re in this mess.

 

[jellycatsdad]

I still don't get it.
A little country like Sweden making Poseidons and all the rest of quality things they make there.
A little country like Italy making Scubapro's and sexy cars like Ferrari's and Lamborghini's and the finest suits and high quality leather shoes.

I’ve always joked around that Canada can prop themselves up with leggings/yoga pants, buses, whiskey and lumber. But, almost all of what lululemon(and their fellow Vancouverites Arcteryx/Aritizia/Bare) sells is made in Cambodia/Vietnam/Sri Lanka, New Flyer builds a majority of their buses in Minnesota and Alabama while Prevost/NovaBus is owned by AB Volvo and Seagram’s is owned by Diageo - and American ag giants run the distilleries in Canada.

 

[Eric Sedletzky]

The American consumer is a price-point driven one. Our love for low prices and the big box store(particularly Walmart, but Target won’t escape my scrutiny) is partly why we’re in this mess.

Quantity over quality.
The low prices are responsible for hyper consumerism.

 

[lexvil]

Interesting article in the general category

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/business-owner-tested-customers-pay-095701095.html

 

[Eric Sedletzky]

Interesting article in the general category

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/business-owner-tested-customers-pay-095701095.html

Interesting, I even read some of the comments.

We are a global economy whether we like it or not, no going back. Once that genie was let out of the bottle there's no stuffing it back in and pretending this is 1950 again.
What it boils down to is we support who we wish, the countries of origin. If you don't like it, don't buy it, you'll just have to do without or figure something else out. Some people have a tough time supporting communist regimes with a very poor record of human rights, and others don't care as long as they can get lots of stuff cheap. I feel that some people almost have a chip on their shoulders and will buy cheap offshored goods just to spite those currently in charge. Maybe they feel like they were already sold out so what's the difference? The uppers always like to blame the lowers for all the ills of the current situation, but it's the uppers who originally made the business decisions to find cheaper labor with no pesky unions and environmental laws.
Others will do their research and seek out alternatives, if there are any.
One thing is for certain with these tariff wars, it has made people more aware of where stuff is made and it has exposed more than ever the complexity of how an interwoven global economy works. I'm still trying to figure out where the US's position in all this is (who needs who more) and how this will ultimately shake out.
I know one thing for sure, it will get worse before it gets better.

 

[landphil]

I’ve always joked around that Canada can prop themselves up with leggings/yoga pants, buses, whiskey and lumber. But, almost all of what lululemon(and their fellow Vancouverites Arcteryx/Aritizia/Bare) sells is made in Cambodia/Vietnam/Sri Lanka, New Flyer builds a majority of their buses in Minnesota and Alabama while Prevost/NovaBus is owned by AB Volvo and Seagram’s is owned by Diageo - and American ag giants run the distilleries in Canada.

But my drysuit, dry glove rings and computer are all made in Canada.

 

[Cthippo]

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[Manatee Diver]

Interesting article in the general category

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/business-owner-tested-customers-pay-095701095.html

False equivalence, he ran a single small batch and paid small batch pricing. That is assuming that he even ran the batch.

Tooling and setup costs are dramatic regardless if it is made in the USA or China. I used to do ERP work for job shop manufacturers, that industry is largely dead in the USA. You only really see them around certain industries like oil/gas and aerospace. There simply isn't a glut of excess capacity for them to compete over price.

 

[lexvil]

False equivalence, he ran a single small batch and paid small batch pricing. That is assuming that he even ran the batch.

Tooling and setup costs are dramatic regardless if it is made in the USA or China. I used to do ERP work for job shop manufacturers, that industry is largely dead in the USA. You only really see them around certain industries like oil/gas and aerospace. There simply isn't a glut of excess capacity for them to compete over price.

I read it as he priced things out and offered it in theory but maybe he did skip any adjustment for longer term costs, what I got mostly is that once “your” money is on the line it breaks away from theory and comes down to personal economics.

 

[Manatee Diver]

I read it as he priced things out and offered it in theory but maybe he did skip any adjustment for longer term costs, what I got mostly is that once “your” money is on the line it breaks away from theory and comes down to personal economics.

He skipped a lot of long term adjustments, US manufacturing is more expensive particularly on the labor side, but it isn't 300% more for the same quality.

Honestly the more I look into it the more it is suspect. His first mention of Afina at all was the day he published his tweet prior to that is was some kitty litter company that he hawked on Sharktank. The waybackmachine starts the day he published his tweet. Google trends start the day of the tweet.

Honestly I would take his test with a huge grain of salt as it looks like a publicity project.