It's also important when wearing a drysuit. I've started putting the pad on all of my crotchstraps due to excessive wear. I bought a new FLX drysuit about two years ago and they're pretty hard to damage. I got a new backplate about a year ago and forgot to add the soft pad. I just remembered a couple weeks ago when I was inspecting my drysuit and found it's still in immaculate condition except for in the crotch which is already starting to wear excessively.
Are all crotch straps the same
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It's also important when wearing a drysuit. I've started putting the pad on all of my crotchstraps due to excessive wear. I bought a new FLX drysuit about two years ago and they're pretty hard to damage. I got a new backplate about a year ago and forgot to add the soft pad. I just remembered a couple weeks ago when I was inspecting my drysuit and found it's still in immaculate condition except for in the crotch which is already starting to wear excessively.
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Kevin Blaylock
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After diving the transpac a few times, i have come to the conclusion that i would like to try a y strap. Does anyone have any suggestions?
I know this is an old-ish thread, but I just found it when I was looking for info on Y-shaped crotch straps. So, I'm adding 2 more cents worth.
Those straps are here (and $25 now):
www.caveadventurers.com
Those straps are here (and $26.95):
www.zeagle.com
My 2 cents worth.
I have the Zeagle split saddle strap on my rEvo. I've been using it for 3+ years now. I just ordered one of the CA ones to replace it with, because I don't like the Zeagle one and now that I found the CA one (thanks to this thread), I believe it will "fix" the issues I have with the Zeagle one.
The things I don't like about the Zeagle one are:
- It has plastic buckles. They haven't broken yet, but I am convinced that one is going to break someday at the most inconvenient time. probably when I'm a 30 minute scooter ride away from my exit.
- It does not have a sewn-in scooter ring. I have a scooter ring on mine by virtue of threading the front part through a tri-glide, through a 2" D-ring, and back through the tri-glide. But, what happens when I do much scootering at any kind of higher speed is that the D-ring/tri-glide pulls along the strap. It moves towards the end from being pulled by the scooter. That makes the loop on the end smaller. That does not hurt anything, when I'm in the water. But, what does happen is that when I get out, the loop on the end of the crotch strap is now too small to let my waist buckle through. So, I have to sit there and futz with it to move the D-ring back down, or I have to set my rig down and step out of the loop around my left leg. Very annoying. I even added a second tri-glide up against the other one, to make it harder to move the D-ring, but it still moves when scootering. And, because it's 2 layers of webbing, it won't fit through any serrated tri-slide that I have.
The CA strap has no plastic buckles, and the D-ring is sewn in. I think it is going to be just exactly right for my needs.
Also, I ordered 2 of them and it was free shipping and no sales tax. Dunno if it would be free shipping on just one or not. But, I need 2 anyway. Probably should have ordered 3 or 4, actually, now that I think about it.
Those straps are here (and $25 now):
Cave Adventurers - Cave Adventurers Scooter Crotch Strap - Marianna, Florida USA - Never Undersold!
CA Scooter Crotch Strap
www.caveadventurers.com
Those straps are here (and $26.95):
Split Saddle Strap Assembly - Zeagle
The Split Saddle Strap Assembly provides additional security for heavy-duty BCDs. For use with Ranger and Tech BCDs.
www.zeagle.com
My 2 cents worth.
I have the Zeagle split saddle strap on my rEvo. I've been using it for 3+ years now. I just ordered one of the CA ones to replace it with, because I don't like the Zeagle one and now that I found the CA one (thanks to this thread), I believe it will "fix" the issues I have with the Zeagle one.
The things I don't like about the Zeagle one are:
- It has plastic buckles. They haven't broken yet, but I am convinced that one is going to break someday at the most inconvenient time. probably when I'm a 30 minute scooter ride away from my exit.
- It does not have a sewn-in scooter ring. I have a scooter ring on mine by virtue of threading the front part through a tri-glide, through a 2" D-ring, and back through the tri-glide. But, what happens when I do much scootering at any kind of higher speed is that the D-ring/tri-glide pulls along the strap. It moves towards the end from being pulled by the scooter. That makes the loop on the end smaller. That does not hurt anything, when I'm in the water. But, what does happen is that when I get out, the loop on the end of the crotch strap is now too small to let my waist buckle through. So, I have to sit there and futz with it to move the D-ring back down, or I have to set my rig down and step out of the loop around my left leg. Very annoying. I even added a second tri-glide up against the other one, to make it harder to move the D-ring, but it still moves when scootering. And, because it's 2 layers of webbing, it won't fit through any serrated tri-slide that I have.
The CA strap has no plastic buckles, and the D-ring is sewn in. I think it is going to be just exactly right for my needs.
Also, I ordered 2 of them and it was free shipping and no sales tax. Dunno if it would be free shipping on just one or not. But, I need 2 anyway. Probably should have ordered 3 or 4, actually, now that I think about it.
broncobowsher
Contributor
How does the Dive Xtras scooter harness fair in this deluxe crotch strap comparison?
For ease of reference:
3-Point Tow Harness
The Dive Xtras 3-Point Tow Harness is designed to move thrust loads away from the arms and into the hips. This makes long-duration scootering significantly more comfortable. The strap also performs the same duty as a normal crotch strap and prevents your equipment moving excessively. To use a...
dive-xtras.com
That looks like something you would see at the Folsom St. fairFor ease of reference:
3-Point Tow Harness
The Dive Xtras 3-Point Tow Harness is designed to move thrust loads away from the arms and into the hips. This makes long-duration scootering significantly more comfortable. The strap also performs the same duty as a normal crotch strap and prevents your equipment moving excessively. To use a...dive-xtras.com
It lets you scooter without having to have a crotch strap on your actual BCD (or CCR). For rec divers that use a non-BPW BCD but want to drive a scooter, I reckon the Dive-X thing is a reasonable option.
I was actually thinking about getting one, just so that I could put people in it who want to try a BlackTip and/or take a DPV class from me, but who don't have a BP/W.
But, they are $90, versus $25-27 for the CA or Zeagle crotch straps. So, not something I would consider for my own use. Even at $25, I wouldn't use it for myself. I'd rather just have a crotch strap on my rig. Simpler. No plastic buckles. No risk of forgetting my crotch strap when I pack up to go diving.
Please don't take this is a personal attack. It's just the latest example, of at least 3 in this thread alone, so I'm using it as such (just an example).
Posts that allude to some specific product would be a LOT nicer if they contained a link to the product that the post is talking about. At this moment, I don't even know if you're talking about a regular crotch strap or a split/saddle/Y one. A link to what you're talking about would make it VERY clear.
Similar posts earlier in this thread are why I posted yesterday, so I could include actual links to the things being talked about - for the convenience of anyone who might actually get some use out of this thread, and also to be perfectly clear on what I was actually talking about.
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