Damn i love this board! I learn so much from posting and reading here. The funny thing about my freeflow is that i was the only one to freeflow and i was using Apeks stuff. All the others were using rental equipment which was not nearly as good as my stuff.
AOW and freeflow
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scottyroz:
A high quality properly adjusted regulator will tend to freeflow easier than one that is not. My primary will go if it is just turned upward when underwater, and that is how I like it.
MD
In my experience the Apeks regs are very resistant to freezing. However, any reg can freeze especially when you free flow it on purpose which is something that we avoid doing with a regulator in cold water.
Wijbrandus
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I'm curious about this.
If you are diving wet, and are in cold water, what is the proper way to fill the bag? You don't have a DS hose to pull off, and then you have to use your octo if the bag is open anyway. Plus those hoses can be a bear to get off under water and with thick gloves on anyway.
In my AOW class, we used our octo as well, with an open bag. The instructor said to just use a little gas, and let it go. This was for surface marker purposes, not lifting. He showed us a closed bag, and said you'd fill that by disconnecting your lp inflator from the bcd, but we didn't actually practice that. We did practice using an open bag on a 40 pound weight belt. That was done with octo inflation as well.
If you have a better way, I'm certainly open to suggestions.
I don't have any bags/smb yet, but intend to get one of the larger smbs before I go back to the ocean. I currently just dive lakes and springs.
If you are diving wet, and are in cold water, what is the proper way to fill the bag? You don't have a DS hose to pull off, and then you have to use your octo if the bag is open anyway. Plus those hoses can be a bear to get off under water and with thick gloves on anyway.
In my AOW class, we used our octo as well, with an open bag. The instructor said to just use a little gas, and let it go. This was for surface marker purposes, not lifting. He showed us a closed bag, and said you'd fill that by disconnecting your lp inflator from the bcd, but we didn't actually practice that. We did practice using an open bag on a 40 pound weight belt. That was done with octo inflation as well.
If you have a better way, I'm certainly open to suggestions.
I don't have any bags/smb yet, but intend to get one of the larger smbs before I go back to the ocean. I currently just dive lakes and springs.
Wijbrandus:
Just because you dive wet doesn't mean you can't have a DS hose. I have one clipped off to my left hip d-ring that can be used with an inflator per my first post. If I was using an open bag as a DSMB I would fill it with exhaust bubbles, you don't need a hose or to take the regulator out of your mouth.
Also, I always have a lift bag, it doesn't matter where I'm diving. And you don't need a large lift bag just because you're diving saltwater. Depending on what you mean by large, I use a closed 80 and an open 50.
MD
scottyroz:
I'll hazard a guess on Mike's part and say yes
MechDiver:
A large lift bag is anything more than 10,000 lbs.
Medium is from 500 lbs to 10,000 lbs.
Anything under 500 lbs is small.
For medium and large bags we usually use a surface air compressor with 1" or larger air hose.
No need to use expensive divers air for a lift bag.
For sport diving I carry a 50 lb bag as a matter of course.
pipedope:A large lift bag is anything more than 10,000 lbs.
Medium is from 500 lbs to 10,000 lbs.
Anything under 500 lbs is small.
I had a 10,000 lb tied under my backplate for awhile, but the drag was pretty bad in a current :11ztongue
goatboy_k
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i agree with some of the above comments, don't take the reg out of your mouth, just stick your head up under the bag and use the exhaust to inflate the bag, using the purge to inflate is asking for trouble with any reg in cold water. But be carefull not to bury your face in the bottom of the bag as you can begin to go up with the bag without realizing it as your vision is blocked. I use apeks DS4's with ATX50 seconds.
good luck
kurt
good luck
kurt
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