anyone know and want to give up the coordinates

[divinman]

Shaka said

I think they have a Panga dive to the P38 on the 16th of this month.

Yep! I am on that trip. Deep baby! Deep!


SOCALDIVIN said

The poor P-38 off our left coast is barely recognizable from the pics I've seen.

Well I think she is in great shape

Here's a shot

http://sdufex.com/

 

[pasley]

The aircrafts owner (State of California for the P38) maintains a website of the location of all their property/wrecks at http://shipwrecks.slc.ca.gov/

The P38 is listed, but the F18 I agree would not still be there. At that depth the Navy would definitely recover it lest sensitive information or weapons fall in to the wrong hands. If the F18 were still there, it would be Federal Property and would not be listed in the state data base.

Another database you could look at is http://channelislands.nos.noaa.gov/shipwreck/dbase.html

Please keep in mind, that just because a ship or plane is on the ocean floor, does not mean it does not have an owner and removing anything could be a crime. :11: There are actually rules and laws governing salvage that must be followed. So look, but do not touch.

You can view anything of interest from many of our local wrecks thanks to the preservation efforts of some local clubs. Under the argument that the sea will destroy the artifacts in 50 or 100 years so, they have striped the wrecks as fast as they could and put them on display in their private homes where, oh that’s right, no one can see them! Now in fairness they do bring a few of them out once or twice a year they put them on display at a talk or diver day at the aquarium. Obviously that is much better than leaving it in its natural environment for other divers to enjoy until the sea eventually reclaimed it. But you can still enjoy the hulk of the wreck, minus anything they could carry or lift with a lift bag.

 

[saintsfan]

The aircrafts owner (State of California for the P38) maintains a website of the location of all their property/wrecks at http://shipwrecks.slc.ca.gov/

The P38 is listed, but the F18 I agree would not still be there. At that depth the Navy would definitely recover it lest sensitive information or weapons fall in to the wrong hands. If the F18 were still there, it would be Federal Property and would not be listed in the state data base.

Another database you could look at is http://channelislands.nos.noaa.gov/shipwreck/dbase.html

Please keep in mind, that just because a ship or plane is on the ocean floor, does not mean it does not have an owner and removing anything could be a crime. :11: There are actually rules and laws governing salvage that must be followed. So look, but do not touch.

You can view anything of interest from many of our local wrecks thanks to the preservation efforts of some local clubs. Under the argument that the sea will destroy the artifacts in 50 or 100 years so, they have striped the wrecks as fast as they could and put them on display in their private homes where, oh that’s right, no one can see them! Now in fairness they do bring a few of them out once or twice a year they put them on display at a talk or diver day at the aquarium. Obviously that is much better than leaving it in its natural environment for other divers to enjoy until the sea eventually reclaimed it. But you can still enjoy the hulk of the wreck, minus anything they could carry or lift with a lift bag.

I'm more less looking for the adventure and picture taking opportunity,not really into collecting. the wreck I am looking for is not listed on either sites but there are a few other interesting ones,I will have to look into them a little further. thanks

 

[Divemaster-K]

The F-18 is a myth. The US Navy doesn't leave multi-million $ hardware laying around. Sorry to burst your bubble !
I did hear of a recent P-38 find in Australia.
http://forums.deeperblue.net/showthread.php?threadid=53574


Jeff

They only recover newer aircraft with technically sensitive instrumentation. Anything pre-80's was stripped of it's ordinances and left for scrap.

 

[divinman]

The aircrafts owner (State of California for the P38) maintains a website of the location of all their property/wrecks at http://shipwrecks.slc.ca.gov/

The P38 is listed, but the F18 I agree would not still be there.

Just looked at the coordinates for the P38 on this site. Unless there is more than two (the other is in like 238 fsw) these coordinates are WAY off. Even with solid coordinates it is tough to find. Its a small spot in a big ocean. SHOULD YOU FIND IT, please try not to drop your anchor through the wing. :11:

I could tell ya where it is but then I'd have to shoot ya......

Actually I don't have the coordinates. The guy that takes me doesn't allow gps on his boat when we go. That's my story and I am sticking to it.

Nothing personal

Terry

 

[So Cal Divin]

Does anybody know if there were any consequences for the SCUM that raped the P-38 last month ?

http://www.diver.net/bbs/messages/45209.shtml

Jeff

 

[divinman]

Does anybody know if there were any consequences for the SCUM that raped the P-38 last month ?

http://www.diver.net/bbs/messages/45209.shtml

Jeff

This is the reason I forget the coordinates between dives.

 

[saintsfan]

its good to know there are responsible divers out there,it would be great if everyone had that attitude,it seems like a lot of people on this board are into preservation of course theres the exception. I will find it eventually,but I'll watch the anchor

Just looked at the coordinates for the P38 on this site. Unless there is more than two (the other is in like 238 fsw) these coordinates are WAY off. Even with solid coordinates it is tough to find. Its a small spot in a big ocean. SHOULD YOU FIND IT, please try not to drop your anchor through the wing. :11:

I could tell ya where it is but then I'd have to shoot ya......

Actually I don't have the coordinates. The guy that takes me doesn't allow gps on his boat when we go. That's my story and I am sticking to it.

Nothing personal

Terry

 

[ShakaZulu]

Does anybody know if there were any consequences for the SCUM that raped the P-38 last month ?

http://www.diver.net/bbs/messages/45209.shtml

Jeff

That's freaking BS, turn the air off on those b*******s next time...........scavengers.

 

[MaxBottomtime]

The aircrafts owner (State of California for the P38) maintains a website of the location of all their property/wrecks at http://shipwrecks.slc.ca.gov/

The P38 is listed, but the F18 I agree would not still be there. At that depth the Navy would definitely recover it lest sensitive information or weapons fall in to the wrong hands. If the F18 were still there, it would be Federal Property and would not be listed in the state data base.

Another database you could look at is http://channelislands.nos.noaa.gov/shipwreck/dbase.html

Please keep in mind, that just because a ship or plane is on the ocean floor, does not mean it does not have an owner and removing anything could be a crime. :11: There are actually rules and laws governing salvage that must be followed. So look, but do not touch.

You can view anything of interest from many of our local wrecks thanks to the preservation efforts of some local clubs. Under the argument that the sea will destroy the artifacts in 50 or 100 years so, they have striped the wrecks as fast as they could and put them on display in their private homes where, oh that’s right, no one can see them! Now in fairness they do bring a few of them out once or twice a year they put them on display at a talk or diver day at the aquarium. Obviously that is much better than leaving it in its natural environment for other divers to enjoy until the sea eventually reclaimed it. But you can still enjoy the hulk of the wreck, minus anything they could carry or lift with a lift bag.

Unfortunately, the numbers on the state's site will get you within 25 miles of the wrecks listed. One of the reasons I couldn't find the UB88 was because the Moody is sitting on top of it, according to http://shipwrecks.slc.ca.gov/