Any Canadians who have retired/immigrated to Cozumel?

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Yes. Mexico Capital Gains are B%^% if you don't have like an FM2 for so long or something. Mexico wants a LARGE chunk of your profits. You can legally avoid most of them. On the other hand, we almost bought a house and in the contract was how much we agreed to 'say' we paid for it. I was lead to believe that sort of hijinks is the norm. You negotiate with the seller what you will pay plus what you will say you paid.

Get a lawyer, no matter what! Let them check stuff out....
 
Thanks for the advice Chief. We will have a FM3 as we will be permanent. Is there still capital gains??? Also a real estate agent quoted $209/month for the unit available in your complex so about the same. Does that include everything like utilities? ;)
 
Thanks for the advice Chief. We will have a FM3 as we will be permanent. Is there still capital gains??? Also a real estate agent quoted $209/month for the unit available in your complex so about the same. Does that include everything like utilities? ;)

Utilities? I wish.... That money is about strictly for everything outside your unit. Pool maintenance, gardening, painting outside and all that sort of thing. Plus it pays for security at night. We have uniformed guy watching the block for us. I think all the units have gas hot water and stove/ovens, so you get a separate bill quarterly for that. Gas is pretty cheap. Of course with all the places to eat, we do more warming leftovers in the microwave!

Water is included in the HOA from the faucet. It is city water and is not treated in any manner on site. The rumor is you could drink it as the city has come a long way, but it tastes bad and might give you kidney stones from the excessive minerals in it after a long time. That being said, they stock the big waters jugs on site and the staff will deliver for a tip. We keep one in a garfon on the counter and I took a small pump setup down and hooked it up another bottle under the sink that supplies the ice maker and water on the fridge door. My place does have a fancy filtration system that the previous owner installed that used to service the fridge and a drinking water tap, but I didn't know how to service it or how it worked and it made me nervous. Again, they said you could drink it filtered, but for 20 peso a big jug, I'll use the bottled water, thank you....

Electric is on your own. Crank the AC and you will know it when the 2 month bill comes in. However if you are conservative on the AC, it isnt bad. I am told since we face west towards the water, we get more afternoon sun and heat up more. East facing units are more protected from the afternoon sun. Also we are on the top, so I imagine that probably contributes to heating it up. The unit below me is for sale, maybe we will be neighbors! You have to watch too on how much you use total. They have a usage pricing structure. If you use too much, your rate for electric can jump up. The higher rate stick with you until you have some months back under the cutoff.

You also need to look at how you are going to use it. We regrettably cant be there all the time, so we pay a manger to watch the place, pay the bill and such. If you aren't going to be there year round, you should think about how you will take care of the place while you aren't there. Air it out now and again, check on it, and so forth. You don't have the security issues of having a free standing house out by itself, but you still have the regular issues.

On the capital gains, I do not want to give you the wrong info, but I *think* it is moving to you need to have an FM2 to avoid them. FM3s were good at one point and maybe you can still get by with them. One thing you learn is in MX a federal law isn't read the same in various areas. How they might choose to do it Merida may be totally different in Cozumel; same law, different implementation. Remember though that capital gains is only on the profit you make on the sale. I don't think you need to worry in the near future that prices will skyrocket and you will be carting out tons of money when you sell it. Worst case, right now you would have to pay around 30% on the difference between what you paid and what you sold it for. Oddly, I think if you sell it for LESS than you paid, the buyer has to pay tax on that difference. They get you coming and going. So long term, you may have to deal with changing rules. Short term, you aren't likely to make much on a sale. Again though, get a good attorney involved and position yourself for your needs.
 
Yeah, water is cheap. I pay $3.15 for a 5 gallon jug in Canada (we have high minerals from our well where I live in Canada) and it's just around 20 pesos from the guy on the street who does home deliveries.
 
One biggie that you need to consider is your national medical benefit. Canadians are supposed to reside in-country for 5 months of the year to retain. How you manage this is up to you.

Some corrections re Las Ventanas: The newer buildings, C & D, have electric hot water, gas stoves & gas clothes dryers. The tap water is purified but bottled drinking water is still the way to go. Other costs of condo ownership include maid service to the extent that you want it, property and garbage-collection taxes, and interior maintenance as necessary.

The decision to buy a house vs. condo, in-town vs. on the water depends on your willingness to maintain the property or have others maintain it for you plus your tolerance of Mexican workers, workmanship and efficiency -- which gets interesting, to say the least! Many condos have maintenance people who can do things for you and they understand northamerican standards. Stuff breaks down rather quicky in this climate, BTW. And we have 2 seasons: Dry/dusty and wet/moldy.

Also, you need to think about the levels of privacy and security that you desire in a home.

For Chief: The rinse tank is installed.

Buena Suerte.
 
You guys are great! Nice long report Chief. Good stuff. Hubby is really pulling away from the condo because of the fees. So we'll probably be looking at a small house. I like how they have a front gate and the back yard is not fenced; but walled. Windows will probably have bars but that is also common in Hong Kong even on my mother-in-law's 28th floor flat. Who's going to climb in from that height? Answer: From your neighbour's unit.

We'll be there year round so no problems with renting it out or having someone look after it until we go on vacation. But to where??? Our vacations are 3x a year to Cozumel and once in September to Jamaica. :D

I thought an FM3 was better than a FM2. More rights like voting. Also we will need some kind of health insurance as we will be walking away from Canada so we lose our OHIP. We don't want to have two residences. When we move - we're gone.

I like the idea of a gas stove as that is what we are use to now. I also would love a washer and dryer. I am also ready to pay for AC as HK is humid about 10 months of the year and I was budgeting on $300-$400 per month for electricity.

Yes I guess the capital gains are not HUGE. only on the difference. Are the prices shooting up a lot? in 20 years? We'll probably die there and then it will be someone else's problem. Less of an inheritance. LOL

Thanks again everyone. We'll do research on our November trip and again in January. Still got lots of time until I retire July 1, 2014.

Betty

P.S. Is it worth visiting Playa del Carmen on one of our up-coming trips? ~$26/person return to see what exactly?
 
Only Mexican citizens may vote. FM3 & FM2 status allows holders to remain in Mexico longer than a visitor permit allows -- up to one year from date of issue. Both of these permits may be renewed without leaving the country and entitle holders to certain benefits of residency. Citizenship status is another ball o' wax & comes after the inmigrado-status ball o' wax.
 
When we were looking, we originally put a contact on a house on 15th in Corpus Christi. It seemed like the best for us, but one thing kept going thru my head.....whenever we watched House Hunters Intl., I would yell to the TV why are you buying a place on an island & you can't even see the ocean! We were about to do just that. Luckily, we had a clause that the contract was subject to a house inspection and we were able to get out of it. We went back to the original condo we went to see and have been extremely pleased since we purchased it. The whole experience was much easier than I expected. Also, Henny was our Realtor & she & her husband built the condo complex.
 

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