this year it involved the charter operators getting out and doing it so that was good especially since this way POW did not have to pay for anything to get it out. I do not see a problem in having the operators do the work I know ever operator that we know off was contacted and asked to contibute since they are the ones making the money off it. Not everyone came out and dove on mooring day in the past either do to the nature of diving on a wreck with out lines and having to get the lines to the surface it does not allow for a lot divers to be in the water. Also we were not subject to one day in which to have members from all over like Ottawa or Toronto come to Kingston and have to scrub it for weather reasons. As for saying GLUE helpwas not needed or requested I know for a fact NTD was contacted and asked to help and we have and begining emailed the past president about meetings and changes. If the information from that stand point was not relayed to you i can not speak of that. It should not be a he said she said kind of thing in my opinion but people just diving and gettin a chance to enjoy diving. There will be a dive weekend in Kingston in august that i hope will draw all kinds of divers out of the wood work and other events to keep members of POW and the diving community involved and feeling engaged throughout the area. There will be a POW newsletter released soon so hopefully making little steps agian will get people an area feel POW is not being this side or that side. We do have a meeting coming up and i would love to see as many different people attend as would the rest of the exec. My belief in that is I am bias in many respects just being human and living will make everyone bias and with that we have to realize there are two sides to everything if not more and it is great to see other peoples perspectives. So if you are able please come out. I do think it is great that people are talking about the wrecks in the area though. Aquaoren and kevinr R i hope that you will be able to atleast be able to give me issues to raise if not able to attend as i do see you guys do have a little distance to travel. I think valid issues need to be addressed in dealt with in a timely matter where POW is involved.