And another sale gone, another one down... another one bites the dust!

[metridium]

norcaldiver wrote...


But that does go both ways tho. So to take the other side of that coin for fun.....If a shop sells 100 BCs a day and you come in and ask for a price, couldn't the guys say "ya know take it or leave it, I sell these all day, if you don't get it someone else will" Sufficient volume = he desn't have to give you a break if he doesn't want to.

Sure they could. But if you're buying a sufficient volume to make it worth their while, they'll likely be willing to sweeten the deal...or at least talk about it. That's haggling.

All bets are off if we're talking about a monopoly or a cartel, though.

 

[metridium]

cmay wrote...


These were not Scuba Pro. I worked in a shop while in college and I don't remember us having our price restricted in any way.

So if shops are protected by price minimums now, why is there still no shop in Galveston? Won't the market even support one?

 

[cmay]

metridium once bubbled...
Sure they could. But if you're buying a sufficient volume to make it worth their while, they'll likely be willing to sweeten the deal...or at least talk about it. That's haggling.

All bets are off if we're talking about a monopoly or a cartel, though.

It's a dive shop, not a Mexican Flea market. I would be curious to know how many of you "arm chair quarterbacks" have worked on both sides of the field. I have, in a dive shop, and in the general business world and it ain't quite the same.

 

[cmay]

metridium once bubbled...
So if shops are protected by price minimums now, why is there still no shop in Galveston? Won't the market even support one?

Nope, considering that:

1) Most industry folks will agree that the market is down about 50%.

and

2) You can drive 50 miles to Houston where there are so many shops that if you stand in the middle of the street and fire a shotgun you are bound to hit a couple.

Just because there might be price minimums, it does not mean that all shops adhere to them. This inevitably either forces the others out of business in the short term, or to match prices and be put out of business in the longer term.

 

[SMKChef]

cmay once bubbled...


It's a dive shop, not a Mexican Flea market. I would be curious to know how many of you "arm chair quarterbacks" have worked on both sides of the field. I have, in a dive shop, and in the general business world and it ain't quite the same.

LOL, Cmay, this is funny. What is the difference? Both places are selling products. Both are willing, in some cases--if you have a blonde GF to trade--to haggle about price.

Can I get tequila flavored air at the Flea Market? j/k

 

[metridium]

cmay wrote...


It's a dive shop, not a Mexican Flea market. I would be curious to know how many of you "arm chair quarterbacks" have worked on both sides of the field. I have, in a dive shop, and in the general business world and it ain't quite the same.

I've seen volume discounts work from both sides of the playing field, as you put it. Sufficient volume gets lower prices, whether the volume is all the same item or spread across several items.

Seems fairly straightforward to me.

 

[metridium]

cmay wrote...
Just because there might be price minimums, it does not mean that all shops adhere to them. This inevitably either forces the others out of business in the short term, or to match prices and be put out of business in the longer term.

Wait a sec, I thought you were arguing that price minimums were a good thing because they prevent price wars?

 

[Lawman]

yknot once bubbled...
Lead Carrier- scuba gear retailing is an industry, like auto retailing, where haggling over the price is possible. Comparisons to things like groceries don't apply.

Lawman- are the warranties as written by the scuba manufacturers even enforcible and or defensible? The warranty for my regs only state yearly service by auth. dealer to remain valid.

It depends on the state again, but the UCC is what
governs all warranties. If you go to court the judge
is going to interpret the situation according to the
UCC. If the warranty violatesthe UCC the law is
what counts. Also, there may be multiple warranties
that apply. If any of them apply, than thats what the
court observes. Manufacturers try to bluff with their
warranties all the time. Look at those reg cards and
see how many have samll print that it isn't necessary
to send them in to have a valid warranty!

 

[SMKChef]

Lawman once bubbled...


It depends on the state again, but the UCC is what
governs all warranties. If you go to court the judge
is going to interpret the situation according to the
UCC. If the warranty violatesthe UCC the law is
what counts. Also, there may be multiple warranties
that apply. If any of them apply, than thats what the
court observes. Manufacturers try to bluff with their
warranties all the time. Look at those reg cards and
see how many have samll print that it isn't necessary
to send them in to have a valid warranty!

Where can a person find this information out for a particular state?

 

[MikeFerrara]

awap once bubbled...


A satisfied customer is a business asset. A dissatisfied one is a liability. Screwing with a customer may be good in the short run for your mental health. But it is not going to help your business. Do you just do this as a hobby?

Actually there are satisfied customers who are also a liability because it costs way too much to satisfy them.