Anal-retentive o-ring lubricating

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DrySuitDave

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Colleagues,

I wanted to ask your opinions on a few things related to o-rings.

Allow me to preface my question with the following observations. I have run into some who state that o-rings must be religiously cleaned of all foreign debris. I watched one CCR user use q-tips to clean the o-rings of the hoses to the point of wetting the q-tips to hold down on the fine cotton fibers that can eject themselves, them observe some of the fibers attach to the o-rings and then remove those.

On another site, it is recommended that the scrubber cannister o-ring be re-lubricated ostensibly upon each scrubber repacking. On that note, I have seen a ccr with every o-ring heavily silicone lubricated to the point where there was excess silicone grease all over the inside of the scrubber bore. On that not, I have seen many refer to it as silicon, which is completely different from silicone.

Anyway, before I digress, the whole purpose of o-rings is to make up for surface imperfections and manufacturing dimensional differences. Lubricating an o-ring does not really make it a better sealer, it merely potentially prolongs its life by potentially keeping its surface supple longer. One can rapidly assess the condition of a substantial o-ring by running its surface between one's fingers, and o-rings.

Take an o-ring on a male DIN valve as in a 1st stage. In 30 years I have never had one faill to seal, and I have let these things go 5, 6 7 years. I have o-rings on my BC, some of my gear and drysuit that have not been replaced in 20 years. They still seal perfectly.

A drawback with silicone or florocarbon based greases are they hold debris. As to my habits, I do not lubricate o-rings ever and I would change them before they would start to harden.

Anyway, what are your thoughts and your o-ring checking/lubricating practices other then negative and positive loop pressure checks?
 
Whenever I disturb an O ring on my yellow box, it is LIGHTLY regreased prior to re-insertion. This serves several purposes

a) Running fingers around O ring allows assesment of the condition of O rings surface
b) Light grease allows easier insertion of the O ring. Hose coupling rings on the YBOD have a habit of rotationg out of their housing rings if not lubed
c) Keeps O ring suple
d) Allows O ring to move easier against its sealing surfaces (important on Scrubber ring)

I use the appropriate grease for the O2 content the O ring is sealing. My scrubber O rings gets O2 safe grease

The reason the Scrubber O ring needs lube is to allow it to slide rather than rotate when it moves on the scrubber wall. If it rotates it can easily twist out of a sealing position (there have been some amazing pictures of the positions it can get to if dry

There are pictures on my web site of how to regrease an O ring.

The negatives, yes grease is sticky and can attract contaminants, and it takes extra time and materials

Pro, suple, conditioned rings that glide with movement rather than twist
 
I have to agree with M2. I too am a believer in lubing o rings, (but just a little is a lot!). I do believe that some grease does actually help them to seal better. Case in point: Once a buddy had an air spool, (SPG swivel), that began leaking at a considerable rate. We were about 70 miles from home for a full day of diving with no replacement o rings to fit his console. I took the air spool out, greased the o rings, and the leak stopped. Not only did it stop but it got no further attention until almost a year later!
I DO agree with you that some folks overkill and oftentimes too much grease far worse than no grease. It is a dirt and sand magnet. I HAVE read that certain o rings on particular models of older rebreathers should not be lubricated as they tend to extrude because of a less-than-perfect design. (This is corrected in the newer models)
Static o rings do not need nearly the attention that sliding (pistons) o rings or rotating (swivel) o rings need.
"Just a little is a lot". Just my opinion.
Norm
 

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