An age-old question: ways to 60m.

[Celt]

Reason I avoid you is you're a blowhard. Keep taking out your insecurities by always trying to be the tough guy on the threads. Its super impressive

The pot calling the pan black, the one pushing their diving methods on others is you.

 

[Blackcrusader]

Are you being intentionally dense?
Same diver, same size cylinder, shallower avg depth = longer dive.
I thought i articulated myself clearly...

Yes sir I guess I got narced on my couch and messed up. Brain fade I guess lol

 

[SelfDiver]

Ooga booga, my limited brain function needs an explanation.

How are SAC rate discussions are relevant?
Can't ypu have thousands of dives and a small beginner female will breathe less?
Isnn't CCR an equalizer aslo?

(Intentional spelling mistakes because I want to remind ALL of you I am dumb as rocks)

Staying on topic would discuss
1) Same size tanks and deco cylinders, only compare using Helium in bottom mix. (This is the most controversial topic)
2) OC on air vs. CCR Trimix
3) OC Trimix vs. CCR Trimix (but this is more of a general CCR vs. OC because we are using Helium in both cases)

And feel free to ignore this post from an idiot on the internets. I am just getting another popcorn bowl ready.

 

[speleo]

Tell me you've never dove deep air without telling me. Clown show at its finest. Comparing deep air to DUI is beyond stupid.

Yes there are better ways, but it's been done safely for decades. You don't have to but don't mock those who choose to. Stay above 100 and keep your little tikes regulator tightly gripped in your mouth.

I've had too many friends die diving deep on air to advocate for it. I don't condemn it, I just don't advocate for it.

 

[CG43]

Hello Blackcrusader
Thanks for the videos . I enjoyed them a mutch .

I don't have experience free diving and I don't take meditation classes. I find diving just relaxes me. My mind goes blank and I don't really think. It's like my brain takes a rest and so does my body. I grew up playing wind instruments Trombone and Euphonium and you had to learn to hold long notes so breathing and doing long slow exhales to play was required. Just took lots of practice, some notes you force the air some notes you use as little air as possible. I don't know if that is why. I breathe the same at home when resting as well.

With 'My mind goes blank' I will experiment while freediving, it doesn't always have to be black or nothing.
Yes, playing a wind instrument or singing can be excellent breathing training. A singer once demonstrated this to me. I don't even know where he got so much air from, and I thought he should become a freediver.

 

[CG43]

I've had too many friends die diving deep on air to advocate for it. I don't condemn it, I just don't advocate for it.

Well, a post without the usual accusations here, bravo!

As an old diver, I remember the times when practically only air and thus air deep was the norm for sport divers. There were also accidents because divers struggled with the demands in combination with impairments associated with air deep. Nowadays, divers usually dive much shallower with air, so we older divers think there shouldn't be many accidents anymore. Unfortunately, that's not the case, and there must be reasons for that.
Speleo, as an instructor, you might be able to tell me how you prepare the students to deal with the requirements of dense air, CO2, high pPO2, and narcosis due to CO2, O2, and N2.
Or are these issues considered to be only avoidable through technology?
So what do you do to train the human body and mind for this?

 

[Nick_Radov]

As an old diver, I remember the times when practically only air and thus air deep was the norm for sport divers. There were also accidents because divers struggled with the demands in combination with impairments associated with air deep. Nowadays, divers usually dive much shallower with air, so we older divers think there shouldn't be many accidents anymore. Unfortunately, that's not the case, and there must be reasons for that.
Speleo, as an instructor, you might be able to tell me how you prepare the students to deal with the requirements of dense air, CO2, high pPO2, and narcosis due to CO2, O2, and N2.
Or are these issues considered to be only avoidable through technology?
So what do you do to train the human body and mind for this?

There is no need to train the human body and mind for deep air. Just use the correct mix. No problem.

 

[girlwithbigtanks]

How old are you old divers making 60m air dives? Just curious about the olden days when you decided your diving path? Are you 80? When did you start diving then tec/deco on air?

 

[ofg-1]

How old are you old divers making 60m air dives? Just curious about the olden days when you decided your diving path? Are you 80? When did you start diving then tec/deco on air?

It was right after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. All of the available helium was going into airships and barrage balloons, so the only choice was to dive on air.

 

[nadwidny]

Show respect to those who choose to dive differently than you.

I have zero respect for those that dive stupid crap and then advocate its' use to new divers.