Airline Thieves!

[eandiver]

boo hoo
If it sucks so bad, you should go back to truck-driving.

No bo-hoo involved....sorry to say after 20 years over the road driving I had an vehicle accident and lost my left eye and according to GOVERNMENT regulations that excludes me from interstate driving...where the money is. I moved on.

 

[IslandHopper]

So you can't drive a truck, but you can fly for a 121 carrier ?? ... you'd be the first one-eyed airline pilot I know !

And my intention wasn't to be mean, but every pilot at every airline knew the pay-scale before he ever took the job... and no-one forced him to take the job.
It get's tiring listening to them whine

 

[lostinspace]

just to change the emphasis, here in SEAsia through some of the busiest airports in the world, you pass your check-in luggage through an x-ray machine and have it swiped by an explosives sniffer (machine or animal) BEFORE you check-in.
this is done in a secure area in front of you and the bag is tagged with a tight ziplock rope. you can lock your bag if you want.
the bags are only ever opened in front of you.
once you pass through this security check you cannot go back out without passing the check.
so when you check in your bag has already been screened.
this is regular and routine and easily done.
no need to open the bags after that.

 

[eandiver]

So you can't drive a truck, but you can fly for a 121 carrier ?? ... you'd be the first one-eyed airline pilot I know !

And my intention wasn't to be mean, but every pilot at every airline knew the pay-scale before he ever took the job... and no-one forced him to take the job.
It get's tiring listening to them whine

Guess I needed to add some question marks in the $24000 post.........I intended to say that I can't believe a pilot of that level only makes $24000 a year. IMHO that is very low pay. I'm not a pilot. I don't think you can be with monocular vision. I work for TSA. Now you can rip on that instead of pilots.

 

[Nomaster]

I'm sorry, but could you tell me what those assumptions were? I thought I was trying to liven up this otherwise ponderous thread with a bit of humor. Sorry if it didn't meet your expectations.



Nah, no frustrations. As I've already tried to say with jest, I actually have had no problems with the TSA, even those few times I have been selected for "a bit more thorough search." My only question with TSA is why things aren't consistent from airport to airport or even from terminal to terminal within the same airport.



If you have had problems with the TSA, or with authority in general (your posts, as well as your screen name, do suggest you have a problem with authority as a whole), then perhaps this could be the reason why.

Let me begin by apologizing for mistaking your humor as something else. I was in a mood. Truly sorry.
Then:
I have no problem with authority, I have huge problems with abuse of power.
Power and authority are only the same for the timid and meek, authority is deserved.
A gun in your face is power - not authority (If I were to have a gun in my face, I would probably be meek, it's a survival thing.), a well reasoned argument is authority.
I have met people with guns and badges who were authority figures, I've met people with guns and badges who weren't fit to be in public, much less to be in the honorable position of Peace Officer.
*As a rather insignificant side bar to this discussion, I have not had a personnal negative interaction with any of the folks who are hired to do what it is that they do at airports. I have problems with the entire ruse,there are examples of real security measures being taken that have been discussed in this thread and on this board elsewhere; and I think resources should be directed toward actual security, not window dressing.

Tom

 

[BigJetDriver]

So you can't drive a truck, but you can fly for a 121 carrier ?? ... you'd be the first one-eyed airline pilot I know!

Capt. Al Morton, FedEx, now retired,--just one prior example--It takes a Demonstrated Waiver of Ability.

 

[BigJetDriver]

Guess I needed to add some question marks in the $24000 post.........I intended to say that I can't believe a pilot of that level only makes $24000 a year. IMHO that is very low pay.

I work for TSA. Now you can rip on that instead of pilots.

Unfortunately, it is true. The industry has changed in many ways,---mostly bad---, but one thing has not changed. The Regional carriers pay lousy wages, and always have.

As I said to the folks in another post, I travel day in and day out. I do it in uniform, and in civvies. I have found the TSA folks to be very pleasant, and very professional. They do a very tough job, dealing with large crowds of the sometimes very cranky public. They also have to enforce some not very common-sense regulations promulgated by the bureaucratic Mandarins!

Here's to ya!!

 

[mempilot]

Capt. Al Morton, FedEx, now retired,--just one prior example--It takes a Demonstrated Waiver of Ability.

We have a captain flying for us that had a tumor removed from his head that left him with a lazy eye and 50% deaf in one ear. He was out for almost a year and finally got his Class 1 back a few years ago. Interesting note on this guy: he also flys helo's for the Guard.

As for the comments above about regional FO pay. There wasn't any whining other than a comparison of how much a starting TSA agent makes compared to the guy that keeps all them peeps in the back alive. A slightly screwed up wage system in aviation when you compare the tasks and education level of the two jobs. No offense to any TSA workers. We all know there are two types filling those roles. Those who are truly qualified, and those who passed the federal background check and got pulled over from Argenbrite, Wackenhut, and countless other rent-a-badge outfits. Heck, the whole Minneapolis airport security was being run by Somalians (no kidding). Now it's about half and half. I think some of them got an all expenses payed vacation to Gitmo.

 

[mempilot]

To add to my post above, because I don't want people to take it the wrong way. I believe we need a strong security presense at the airports. I believe TSA does an outstanding job for the sh!tstorm they were thrown into. It's a work in process and it has improved tremendously over the last couple of years. It will continue to get better. As for thieves, they are there in every industry. I've had things stolen from hotel rooms at the rate of about 5 incidents a year. I've never had anything stolen from a suitcase at the airport. I stay in hotels 4 nights a week and go through TSA checkpoints about the same. I trust TSA employees more than I trust hotel maids.

Now let's here it from the scuba maids!

And PS, I trust hotel maids more than I trust my fellow pilots!!!

 

[BigJetDriver]

Heck, the whole Minneapolis airport security was being run by Somalians (no kidding). Now it's about half and half. I think some of them got an all expenses payed vacation to Gitmo.

:rofl: