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MtnDiver:
When are they going to learn!

I really wish all airports did it the way they do it here in Colorado Springs. TSA screens your bag in line before you get to the ticket counter to check in. They mark the bag as having been screened, then they allow you to lock it if you wish (or they will zip-tie it if you ask). Doesn't take much extra time (if any) and you get to lock your bag before it goes off to the bowels of the airport.

COS is one of the few airports that I've seen that allows this and I wish that they all would!

You know, I have been saying that they should do it this way and it is nice to hear that SOME have figured it out. It makes the passenger feel better and government has their chance, too.

astrl
 
Unfortunately it wont work at the bigger airports because of the high volume of passengers, large numbers of bags and the inline systems.
 
DPJ:
If I can save 30 minutes to an hour sitting in an airport waiting on checked luggage, then that is extra time at home or the client site. I will always carry everything on if it does not exceed the limits set on the airlines.

Plus with airlines sometimes losing luggage, or putting luggage on the wrong plane, or worse having stuff stolen from checked baggage, I much prefer to do carry-ons as much as possible.

And while those bags can get heavy at times, I'm courteous enough not to drop them on people's heads :11ztongue
 
eandiver:
Unfortunately it wont work at the bigger airports because of the high volume of passengers, large numbers of bags and the inline systems.

It CAN work. It's being done at some terminals of LAX...the WORLD's 3rd busiest airport.
 
Nomaster:
These guys are just government goons, except probably trained much less and paid much much less.
Here's a little known fact about how much they are paid.

A starting TSA employee needs no more than a GED education to get the job, yet gets a pension and is paid more than the first officer of the regional jet your flying on who has a 4-year degree and spent countless hours of training and sacrafice to get into that seat.

Another point.

That pilot can apply to carry a gun in the cockpit and has a crash axe with pick stowed next to their seat, but can't carry a manicure scissors in their bag through TSA.

A question.

Why screen pilots for toenail scissors and such, when if they want to crash the plane, all they have to do is push forward on the control yoke on approach to landing?

At certain airports, airline employees with a SIDA badge can enter the ramp from outside security carrying anything in their bag that they wish. These items can be placed on any aircraft on the ramp. No security, no detection, no questions.

All a smokescreen for the passengers.

US airports will never have anything better than good security because what would be considered excellent security would not allow our congested flight schedules to continue. It is not possible to have excellent security and all the flight options at the same time. The cost is too high. Someone complained about the $10 security surcharge on their ticket price. Ha. Ticket prices are at an all time low.

The airlines and TSA are not the only people skewed right now. Passengers are very skewed as well. It's a right to have an aas so wide it takes up more than one seat, so if I have to pay for two seats????!!!! My last ticket from xxx to Europe was only $400, so xxx airline is screwing me on this $700 fare. A frequent flyer gets PO'd when he doesn't get his 'automatic' upgrade to first class, even though he paid $99 through priceline.com for his ticket. Same guy normally drinks and eats his weight in free boose and snacks on every flight.

Take a train. Rent a car. Ride a horse. Walk. Or, write your congressman and do something about it. If we all put as much time into writing congress as we do beotching on scubaboard, then something might get done. Don't forget, Bush is only one voice in DC. All your congressman, Dems and Repubs voted the TSA in and they all have the ability to change it. Most people forget how our government actually works. No one person has the power, but we all seem to think so in an election year.
 
mempilot:
A starting TSA employee needs no more than a GED education to get the job, yet gets a pension and is paid more than the first officer of the regional jet you're flying on who has a 4-year degree and spent countless hours of training and sacrifice to get into that seat.

Another point.

That pilot can apply to carry a gun in the cockpit and has a crash axe with pick stowed next to their seat, but can't carry a manicure scissors in their bag through TSA.

Mempilot,

Hey, when our airlines declare bankruptcy, and the executives steal our pensions, maybe we can get on with the TSA instead of having to live in that refrigerator box under the freeway overpass!

As for your next point, remember the TSA's motto: "We trust absolutely NO ONE with such dangerous, terrorist weapons as nose-hair or toe-nail clippers! Especially not you evil pilots!"

:cwmddd:
 
mempilot:
Here's a little known fact about how much they are paid.

That pilot can apply to carry a gun in the cockpit and has a crash axe with pick stowed next to their seat, but can't carry a manicure scissors in their bag through TSA.

A question.

Why screen pilots for toenail scissors and such, when if they want to crash the plane, all they have to do is push forward on the control yoke on approach to landing?

Seems reasonable to me. That way, when the pilot misplaces his bag inside the security area, their is no need to shut down the airport in case it contained a weapon of minimal destruction.

I hope he can still use his emory board for necessary inflight grooming. ;)
 
awap:
Seems reasonable to me. That way, when the pilot misplaces his bag inside the security area, there is no need to shut down the airport in case it contained a weapon of minimal destruction.

I hope he can still use his emory board for necessary inflight grooming. ;)

---Weapon of minimal destruction--- :rofl:

No, absolutely no emery boards for pilots! They might sharpen their fingernails with them, tricky devils that they are!! :11:
 
rockydiver:
[...] I find it amusing that people who will dress in a wetsuit on a rolling deck or walk in flippers backwards through the surf wearing 50 lbs of dive gear would complain about walking 20 feet in their stocking feet in an airport. [...]

It's not about walking barefoot (or in socks, for those of you that wear them ;) ).

It's about the lunacy of inspecting a 0.25" thick bit of plastic, which in my case
is translucent. No explosives there. No sharp objects.

Watching them wand my bare feet is most amusing. What, exactly,
are they looking for? "But it says here we gotta wand 'em".

No common sense.
 
Hey,

Gotta sign off. I'm off to get screened by the TSA at the Grand Forks, ND airport. I don't have any scuba equip with me on this trip, but I am gonna try to sneek a hotel pen through.
 

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