Air3 on BP/W setup

[liuk3]

If you are interested in one school of thought regarding equipment setup with the bp/w and long hose and backup bungy, you might want to check out this book "Dress for Success" by Dan Macay.
Dress for Success | Global Underwater Explorers
I found it really helpful when I first got my bp/w and was trying to figure out how to route everything. Hope this helps.

 

[buddhasummer]

Or, you can mount your EMT shears / holster where the can light would go.

quite right he could indeed do that, sorry I missed the part where he said he had shears.

 

[rongoodman]

and another quesiton, why do you give up your primary instead of your octo? sorry if that quesiton is off topic.

Briefly, you want to be absolutely sure that the regulator the (presumably) stressed OOA diver receives is working properly and supplying the appropriate gas. Handing off the regulator that you've been breathing satisfies both these criteria.

 

[Green_Manelishi]

Or, you can mount your EMT shears / holster where the can light would go.

I never quite understood why DIR, with its dogmatic approach to holistic systems, would suggest placing your shears where the can light would go (if you had one) then changing the location of the shears when you do own a can light. 'Tis better to use a CLS (or what I made and called a LightSaver GREEN MANELISHI DIVING/MY GEAR ) and then your hose wraps the same way regardless of the presence/absence of a can light.

 

[TSandM]

THESE photographs show the routing of a long hose, although this one is 7 feet -- the only difference is that, with a 5' hose, you don't route it all the way down to your right hip but only under the arm and across the chest.

The reason to donate the regulator you are breathing is that you are sure it is working properly. The last thing you want to do is donate to an already very stressed diver, and find the reg you gave them is full of debris, or has a leaky mouthpiece or diaphragm. You, as the unstressed diver, are in a much better position to cope with something that isn't precisely as it should be (although, with a bungied octo which you have tested before you dove, the likelihood of anything being wrong is pretty darned low). In addition, when you get to more advanced diving, the regulator you are breathing is safe to breathe at the depth where you are, and you may be carrying gases that AREN'T safe at that depth.

GUE and UTD, the agencies through which I have done most of my training, both teach that you should "begin as you mean to go on". Use equipment that scales . . . that way, when you get to more advanced diving, you don't change very much at all, and all the skills you have learned continue to work. This is why people are suggesting that, if you are contemplating cave training at some point, you begin with a cave-type setup. That way, you can practice with it in open water, and some day, when you get to your cave classes, you will already be facile with the configuration you'll be required to use.

 

[tech3324]

Just go for a std octo. Further, recommendation on the octo - get one that is the same as your primary. This way when you finally to move into more technical diving you can buy just the first stage and have two exact regs which IMHO is preferable for technical diving.

That's what I did. Both my primary and octo are the same 2nd stage, except the octo is yellow. On a diving vacation one service kit will work on either 2nd stage.

 

[DevonDiver]

AIR3 on a BP/W. The threading is different.... you'd need to go to your LDS and ask for a 'stroke adaptor'.

 

[Rubber Duckie]

The setup I am working on is an Air2 and then adding a Pony with an octo for the deeper dives. Since around where I live a shallow river is the only place to dive in the winter without a drysuit.

 

[danvolker]

alright, so i need to look at getting a 5' or 7' hose. does anyone have a pic of their setup? like on them?

I attached shots that should show you very clearly why the DIR way is optimal.
Personally I like the 7 foot hose...the trick is--as shown in the photos, you route it down under a pocket( like here) or a knife scabbard, or a canister light. You need to route it down like this to keep it taught so it remains streamlined while you are diving..should your buddy need to breathe off of it, you will be amazed at how easy it is to deploy--to share. Your backup reg on a bungee around your neck, is just below your chin where you don't even need a hand to get it in your mouth. Good for even a total siltout or absolute total darkness.
DanV

 

[fnfalman]

I attached shots that should show you very clearly why the DIR way is optimal.
Personally I like the 7 foot hose...the trick is--as shown in the photos, you route it down under a pocket( like here) or a knife scabbard, or a canister light. You need to route it down like this to keep it taught so it remains streamlined while you are diving..should your buddy need to breathe off of it, you will be amazed at how easy it is to deploy--to share. Your backup reg on a bungee around your neck, is just below your chin where you don't even need a hand to get it in your mouth. Good for even a total siltout or absolute total darkness.
DanV

The DIR way is optimal for DIR divers.

Imagine you have a long hose wrapped about your body and some OOA vacation diver comes thrashing toward you from behind and yanks the regulator from your mouth. Do you think that you will have time to untangle that hose or will that hose now choke you to death?