Advance Nitrox or Deep Diver

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At one time the IANTD deep diver course was refered to as "deep air" even though the max depth is 130 ft just because it is deep(er) and, unless it's combined with nitrox or advanced nitrox, is done on air.

The IANTD technical diver course was refered to as technical nitrox. Since this course maxes out at 170 ft on air (unless combined with normoxic trimix), I would consider it deep air.
 
sbrooks:
If you read the red stuff in Jason's second posting, you need to have your advanced nitrox BEFORE you can get your deep.
S.
You have go deep before advanced nitrox or combine in one:)
 
Hi guys, thanks for your reply...

I've noticed that I can combine deep air and adv nitrox course at the same time according to IANTD program.

Will it be useful for rec diver like me? It seems like a very tough course to do; double tank, deco bottle kind of stuff. My goal is to be a better rec diver eventhough this board has been really usefull and helpfull for divers to improve.


Andy
 
Andy_W:
Hi guys, thanks for your reply...

I've noticed that I can combine deep air and adv nitrox course at the same time according to IANTD program.

Will it be useful for rec diver like me? It seems like a very tough course to do; double tank, deco bottle kind of stuff. My goal is to be a better rec diver eventhough this board has been really usefull and helpfull for divers to improve.


Andy

Good luck for your coming courses:coffee:
 
Andy_W:
Will it be useful for rec diver like me? It seems like a very tough course to do; double tank, deco bottle kind of stuff. My goal is to be a better rec diver eventhough this board has been really usefull and helpfull for divers to improve.


Andy

My opinion, if you want to dive deeper than 80ft or so, these classes will greatly help you be a safer diver. This is a class set that will give you real gas planning and decompression management tools. As for skills, yes there are a lot but all have thier uses. Better to know and have options later.
 
Originally Posted by Andy_W
How usefull is it for rec diver like me?

I´d say it´s hard to answer how useful the courses will be to you without knowing what kind of dives you do/want to do. With a good/decent instructor I think you´ll come out of it a better and more aware diver...

If you are going to do either, I´d advice you to both at the same time. If you think combining them will be "too much" at once, I´d recommend talking to your instructor and asking if you can do a familiarization dive (or two) with the setup you´ll be using during the class. Since you seem a bit apprehensive about it, if for nothing else than your peace of mind, I´d say that would be worthwhile even if it costs you a bit extra (combining them should give you some kind of discount anyways)...

ymmv
 
Andy_W:
Will it be useful for rec diver like me?
I found it to be useful in my rec diving for several reasons:
  • Having training that exceeds the requirements of the dives you're doing gives you a set of skills/tools that will allow you to manage more complex problems than you are likely to encounter on a recreational dive. That helps to make you a safer, more knowledgable, and more skillful diver.
  • The Adv. Nitrox class gives you more flexibility with regard to how you chose to execute dives within your current range. A deco dive doesn't necessarily mean going deeper... it can also mean staying longer. Instead of two bounce dives to a 120' wreck, you could (if you wanted to) go down, stay a while, and do a short deco. Instead of just seeing something deep, you could hang out and enjoy/explore it. So long as you know how and do the required planning, it's nice to kiss the NDL goodbye.
  • You'll learn to plan and manage your gasses properly, and that's good for any diver.
  • You'll learn to dive with greater task loading, which will make future recreational dives that don't require so much planning/attention to detail that much more enjoyable.
  • Since there's really no such thing as a no-deco dive, the more you know about planned deco, the more you understand about diving in general.
  • You'll probably have a lot of fun.

That said, I took IANTD adv.nitrox and rec. trimix, and I've never even considered taking deep air. I still don't have any particular desire to do so. If you have experience diving past 100', I personally wouldn't bother with it.
 
MSilvia:
I found it to be useful in my rec diving for several reasons:
  • Having training that exceeds the requirements of the dives you're doing gives you a set of skills/tools that will allow you to manage more complex problems than you are likely to encounter on a recreational dive. That helps to make you a safer, more knowledgable, and more skillful diver.
  • The Adv. Nitrox class gives you more flexibility with regard to how you chose to execute dives within your current range. A deco dive doesn't necessarily mean going deeper... it can also mean staying longer. Instead of two bounce dives to a 120' wreck, you could (if you wanted to) go down, stay a while, and do a short deco. Instead of just seeing something deep, you could hang out and enjoy/explore it. So long as you know how and do the required planning, it's nice to kiss the NDL goodbye.
  • You'll learn to plan and manage your gasses properly, and that's good for any diver.
  • You'll learn to dive with greater task loading, which will make future recreational dives that don't require so much planning/attention to detail that much more enjoyable.
  • Since there's really no such thing as a no-deco dive, the more you know about planned deco, the more you understand about diving in general.
  • You'll probably have a lot of fun.

That said, I took IANTD adv.nitrox and rec. trimix, and I've never even considered taking deep air. I still don't have any particular desire to do so. If you have experience diving past 100', I personally wouldn't bother with it.

Thanks guys

Thank a lot MSilvia

I'm going to do it. Gonna get my self instructor and my boss approve my leave when season start.

I guess it's always better to know more to be a safe diver.
 

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