SuPrBuGmAn
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Morrison is a great cavern dive and as for safety I would put it far above the cavern at Ginnie.
Fixed it for ya.
Ok....I ay the following now to point fingers, but in situations like this everyone must consider their own potential role in the result. Follow my thought process. An out of state, non-cave certified diver manipulates the gate open to gain access to an area he should not be in. He does this not by chance....but because he has evidently done this before. Certainly he is not the only one. Does Vortex have knowledge that this has taken place in the past? If so, should there have been an effort to install a better gate system? And before you flame me and say Votex is not responsbile for the actions and poor decisions of others....( which is in part true...)....when they assume a certain level of responsibility to protect people from such poor decisions ( ie...putting a gate up in the first place) shouldn't they make sure they fulfill that responsibility appropriately? I mean.....otherwise....why have the gate up in the first place?
The current owners/managers of Vortex didn't install the gate, former owners/managers did. Should they still be responsible?
Since all of this is foreign to me could you explain the difference of a wet and dry suit and why you should wear one and not the other when making certain dives?
And what is trimix consist of? Is it required to cave dive and used specifically for cave diving only?
I think Rob brought up drysuits because you can get further into a tight spot in a wetsuit, due to it hugging your body much tighter... at the expense of warmth usually.
Trimix... would have allowed a much clearer head than diving air(read as he was impaired at 160' of depths).
I do know that he posted his dive profile for the Vortex dive online. He posted as a Monday dive. I do not know if he postponed it to Wednesday or did it twice. I do know from the profile it was a hardcore dive for someone not properly trained. 8 bottles total, a 232 min. dive to 140 some odd feet.
Where was his dive plan posted?
The search wasn't called off. A team just went down not too long ago.
Who was the team? The team diving Friday and Saturday, atleast for the most part, headed home. Some of their homes are closer than others.
Where in the thread has something been posted disputing the validity of the original poster stating that the he heard the the owner state that the key was checked out?
Disputing information may not have been posted on this forum, but it was very well present, with witnesses, onsite. We can just call it contradicting information, if you'd like.
Vortex is smaller than Rock Bluff?
At the back, yes, and the bottom isn't rock, its extremely silty clay, so you get to go back through(worse than) that, blind, on the way out.
If location is identified, but recovery not possible, then what?
Do they close off a section?
Are there health risks introduced to other divers?
The section would pretty much be closed off by what makes the section anyway... too damned tight.