a retreat from DIR

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All this "where do you clip it?' goes way south the first time a "team member" has a real panic.

 

[rjack321]

So you're diving with stages on both sides, your gauge on the left wrist, your watch on the right, the light head on the right, and the backgas spg on the left chest d-ring.
Is that right? Did I miss anything?

Originally, you only asked about the spg placement and the lighthead.

The whole system is just that, there's more than just the spg and the lighthead which is throwing the system off here. That's no biggie, but maybe the reason you've decided to abandon the DIR way is because you haven't seen the value of the system. Posibly because your buddies are all diving different configs too?

That's fine, but Scubaboard isn't the place to learn about the value of the system if you have a DIRF instructor. Who was paid to help you understand this so you could make an educated choice.

 

[Soggy]

while I follow most DIR guidelines, I am NOT a DIR diver (since I use a computer
and do solo diving). now, i am also carrying my light on the right hand and
clipping the SPG on the chest d-ring, further distancing me from the DIR
standard.

So...you follow DIR guidelines, except you wear your light in the right hand, wear stages on both sides, solo dive, use a computer (which is on the left hand), clip your SPG to the chest D-ring, and dive single tanks in caves? Did I miss something? What guidelines do you follow?!

I hate to break it to you, but you have no interest in DIR. You don't follow any of it. You don't understand the entire concept. Forget about DIR and go off and do your thing the way you want to do it. Some people 'get' DIR and some people don't. The ones that don't get it (you), never will.

EDIT: Wow...rjack above posted almost the exact same thing I did...jinx on me.

 

[fire_diver]

I hate to break it to you, but you have no interest in DIR. You don't follow any of it. You don't understand the entire concept. Forget about DIR and go off and do your thing the way you want to do it. Some people 'get' DIR and some people don't. The ones that don't get it (you), never will.

I think the important point here is that he DOES understand DIR. HE made the choice to follow that discipline for several years. However, he found that it doesn't work for him like it does for you.

I guess some are comfortable being assemilated into the collective and others make thier own choices. :1poke:

My question for the DIR folks... Why do you do what you do? Is it because someone else said it was the best? Or did your entire dive group sit down and work out what YOU (collectively) felt was the best options. You could still have all the DIR advantage with the different setup correct?

FD

 

[H2Andy]

I think the important point here is that he DOES understand DIR. HE made the choice to follow that discipline for several years. However, he found that it doesn't work for him like it does for you.

basically

and my question really is: what reasons can you give me for doing x, y, z,
because the reasons i've heard do not make a compelling argument to do it
x, y, z. and i DO appreciate all the DIR divers who have taken the time
to go through the reasons. they have helped me think things through,
and that is always a plus.

and i stress again, at no point have i claimed to be a DIR diver. in fact, i have
stated that i am NOT a DIR diver, since i understand DIR is all or nothing.

i do like a lot of the reasoning behind DIR, and hope to incorporate it into my
diving (and in fact have done so for quite some time).

So...you follow DIR guidelines, except you wear your light in the right hand, wear stages on both sides, solo dive, use a computer (which is on the left hand), clip your SPG to the chest D-ring, and dive single tanks in caves? Did I miss something? What guidelines do you follow?!

re-read my post here.

and, again, i never claimed to be DIR. for the past two years, i have had my
equipment configured DIR-style. but i have used a computer and dived solo.
thus, I don't call myself DIR. never have.

 

[Scuba_Steve]

Well Soggy, you can add FD to your list of not gettin' it either. There's no way Andy followed the discipline as taught, for years.

Andy, it's OK bud, it's not mandatory dude. If it ain't for you, it ain't for you, don't sweat it, and don't bother worry about why they do what they do. It doesn't matter to you as you have already made your decision.

 

[H2Andy]

Andy, it's OK bud, it's not mandatory dude. If it ain't for you, it ain't for you, don't sweat it, and don't bother worry about why they do what they do. It doesn't matter to you as you have already made your decision.

well... this sort of is not where i am coming from

it's not a DIR/not-DIR thing for me

it's a "DIR has some good reasons for not doing this and for doing that, and i am
interested in hearing them to helpe me make some decisions."

seriously... this dichotomy of "it's either DIR or it isn't" doesn't interest me.

"is this configuration sound and safe" is what interests me. that's what i am asking
the DIR folks: why is this configuration either not safe or not sound?

 

[L.A.Dave]

You guys crack me up, I never read much about actual diving in these posts, just what length hose gets clipped to what D-ring on which side of the body. Seems like it is all about rigid equipment ideology and not really much about actual diving and enjoying yourself and marine life.

Paradoxic thing is, Halcyon's GUE is far less rigid about equipment specifications than the self anointed keepers of the sacred equipment list.

 

[Scuba_Steve]

Well that's a whole different ball of wax then, so I suggest if it doesn't matter to you (DIR or NOT), then please remove or rename the title of the thread you started.

Please don't ask or waste a DIR divers time asking what they think is safe or not. You should know already, the answers they'd more than likely give you.

I suggest to you they don't give a rats behind about discussing any other config, as that dog has ran it's race with them, and it is quite the moot point.

I now truly have no idea what your original intent was at this point in time.

 

[H2Andy]

I now truly have no idea what your original intent was at this point in time.

i have been doing two things the DIR way: position of light and position of SPG

it seems to me that the non-DIR way works best for me in these two cases

what are reasons i should do it the DIR way, since i may be missing something?
(and again, i thank all the DIR divers who have contributed to help me
figure things out. i very much appreciate your time)

or to start all over again:

what is unsafe or unsound about wearing the light on the right hand?

what is unsafe or unsound about clipping the SPG to the left chest d-ring?


then, in the progess of the thread, a new questions popped up:

what may be unsafe or unsound about wearing the canister on the left?
(note: i still wear canister on right. i have not made this change)