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A NEW SPECIALTY - LETS DISCUSS

Discussion in 'SSI: Scuba Schools International' started by rick00001967, Apr 19, 2021.

  1. rick00001967

    rick00001967 Tech Instructor

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: canada
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  2. RainPilot

    RainPilot OC/CCR Instructor Trainer Staff Member

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: UAE
    4,408
    4,394
    Seems somewhat similarly placed to RAID Deco40 (without trimix) and PADI Tec40. I think a "light backgas deco" course is a good place for those who want to extend their rec dives but aren't ready or able to commit to full tech. My one concern would be that instructors/shops push it onto folks as a "advanced rec" course without adequate understanding of what is involved. An overhead is an overhead, soft or hard.

    That is an individual issue though, not an agency one.
     
  3. lowwall

    lowwall Contributor

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Chicago
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    What are the equipment (particularly redundant gas) requirements? Do they use air or EAN28 or ?
     
  4. rhwestfall

    rhwestfall Woof! ScubaBoard Sponsor

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: "La Grande Ile"
    16,844
    20,250
    "using either traditional recreational equipment or introducing them to using a sidemount system"...

    So, not back mount doubles? Single tank (unless sidemount) and single gas with DECO on back-gas? Unimpressed with where this could lead to....

    Not sure they have the right tools in the toolbox...
     
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  5. RainPilot

    RainPilot OC/CCR Instructor Trainer Staff Member

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: UAE
    4,408
    4,394
    I agree in principle, but a pony is considered "traditional rec equipment" so I could see a situation where a single BM set combined with an AL40 or 80 stage as redundant could be described this way, in an effort to avoid scaring potential customers off who think they need super duper special tech equipment.
     
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  6. rhwestfall

    rhwestfall Woof! ScubaBoard Sponsor

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: "La Grande Ile"
    16,844
    20,250
    then say it...
     
  7. RainPilot

    RainPilot OC/CCR Instructor Trainer Staff Member

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: UAE
    4,408
    4,394
    Would have to check the course standards, I am sure it will be laid out one way or the other. The link provided is just an advertising blurb. If it is only a single BM cylinder, then I would not recommend this course, but im willing to give the benefit of the doubt for now.
     
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  8. gbirch

    gbirch Instructor, Scuba

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: New England
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    According to course notes, backmount options are single backmount with a slung stage. Dive is planned using back gas for the entire dive with stage gas up to EAN 40) used for redundancy or to accelerate deco: "During this program, you will learn to plan your decompression stops using only your back gas. This ensures that you will have a sufficient amount of gas left to safely reach the surface. The decompression gas makes the dive plan safer by increasing the conservatism level and accelerating your decompression obligation."
     
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  9. BackAfter30

    BackAfter30 ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Denver
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    The new course standards have been published.
    24 dives min
    Deep specialty reqd
    EAN40 speacialty reqd
    SM specialty reqd or slung deco gas
     
  10. DiveClimbRide

    DiveClimbRide Instructor, Scuba

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: New Zealand, South Island
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    93
    Kind of weird that twins don't seem to be allowed. My first guess as to why is because ssi doesn't have a recreational level specialty for them.
     

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