A few words about the real DIR guys...

[Genesis]

spouting - he IS involved with JJ and Halcyon, even if only "unofficially", and vice-versa when it comes to the whole "GUE" thing, is THE biggest problem that GUE and DIR has.

Irrespective of what people can try to say - that its not all "stroke this", and "pu$$y that", one rant like that from the FOUNDER and SPOKESMAN, and well, those lies get put to rest.

DIR is doomed to be a cult phenomena until GI3 subjects himself to the "Genesis of DIR" again, and ends up losing the OTHER half of his mind - at which point he willf all silent, and perhaps the value will be seen.

 

[Bob3]

POW!

Just like duck hunting, a minute after season opening, all **** breaks loose.

 

[longraven]

SeaJay

Agreed, not all are of the same rightist group as I stated, "some DIRF'ers might..." I also stated that those people I have contacted or met in person have been great. Thanks for stating it more clearly.

I suppose that I unintentionally communicated in general terms when I wrote "some.” Restated, I would have said "some but not all.”

However, having said that, I didn't just choose that quote from G.I. because it was the only one. The comment was just one that was more recent and convenient. I'm sure if anyone has viewed the threads on the link posted, as well as other posts, you would see many known figureheads and unknowns posting the same type of commentary. I didn't mean to single one out.

I did not intend to offend anyone with generalities. My apology if this is the case.

Cave Diver---Not sure if you were being nice about the calendar comment, my guess is not. Clearly you see at lest one reason why I don't do them. Thanks for taking the time to check the pic though. I checked yours but there is just a big "X" there. Hope your not providing a target for "one shot one kill” or someone else. Maybe "scuberd" is our guy if you want to take the time to check his pic. Looks like he just came from the duck pond.

Bob3---You just winged me, but point taken...Just like a Maalox storm....

 

[Genesis]

that many of the DIRites claim that "oh its not like that".

But that claim is ignorant at best, and intentionally misleading at worst. Why? Because GI3 <IS> DIR and GUE, for all intents and purposes.

If the head of General Electric said "all <insert ethnic group> are <insert slur>", would you think that GE wasn't in some way responsible corporately for that screed? Sure you would. So would I. So should we both.

Why?

Because those who control a thing are responsible for how that thing is viewed in and by the public. It really is that simple.

Until GI3 and the others on the board of GUE "go away", or are forced to stop this garbage by the rest of the board (e.g. corporately told to "shut up" or else!) it is perfectly reasonable for the rest of the public to view DIR, GUE and all it stands for as being PRECISELY what GI3 screams about and on - because it is.

 

[Divesherpa]

Genesis once bubbled...

Until GI3 and the others on the board of GUE "go away", or are forced to stop this garbage by the rest of the board (e.g. corporately told to "shut up" or else!) it is perfectly reasonable for the rest of the public to view DIR, GUE and all it stands for as being PRECISELY what GI3 screams about and on - because it is.

I don't feel that it is fair to bring the Board of GUE in on this. Panos and JJ are great guys and I haven't seen or heard either of them bashing others. Panos is a great source of information and is very logical in his methodologies. GI3 is a different animal all together.

Cheers,
Sherpa (back from the tropics)

 

[Genesis]

GI3 is the "spokesman" of the entire GUE and DIR "thing."

Until and unless the board censures or removes him, thereby making it clear that he does NOT speak for either, thereby making him "just another diver" in relationship to GUE and DIR, it is not unfair at all to paint them with the brush that GI3 wields.

 

[JeffAustin]

The DIR divers I know and dive with are excellent; but if your impression of GUE and DIR diving is based on what you read on quest then yes, they( GUE & DIR zealots) sound pretty nasty. quest seems to be a no holds barred, rip you a new a$$hole if you don't agree with me kind of site. Don't let that scare you off from making the decision to dive DIR !!

 

[Genesis]

is an official organ of DIR and GUE, along with GI3.

It is officially sanctioned and linked off their web site.

It IS GUE.

If GUE doesn't like how Quest presents GUE and DIR, that is their issue to resolve. Since they have not resolved it, one thing is clear - they agree with what goes on there.

That is their call to make, and it is my call to judge their organization by how they present themselves there.

 

[LUBOLD8431]

Just like duck hunting, a minute after season opening, all **** breaks loose.

wow, that was unexpected and so Da*n funny!!! It kills me every time Genesis comes into a post and starts spouting off... I needed that tonite... Thanks for the humor...

LOL!!!!!

 

[longraven]

Genesis,

I think a nerve has been struck here. Ummm, maybe?

It is clear you are displeased with the overall GUE presentation of themselves to the public.

Lets not forget the original intent here. Malammon, cave diver and others were trying to pass on some positive info and it got all twisted as replies were posted (mine included), with all the negative stuff about some of the folks who may represent or misrepresent GUE or DIR.

Thanks for passing the good info on. It is a comfort to know your experience was positive. The quest or other posts will not deter me from seeking what I want out of the DIR training. There are also other reputable organizations to gain valuable training from as well.

Keep laughing,
Annie