85m air dive
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Blackwood
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You know, if you went to the left lean/right rich method having 3 on one side wouldn't be a concern.
Right rich, left lean, middle mmm... I'm drawing a blank.
Righter richer?
You know, if you went to the left lean/right rich method having 3 on one side wouldn't be a concern.
Ok but can we get the answer to my off topic issue of balancing my rig first. Then we can go more off topic and argue how to carry our deco tanks.
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As I've said several times in the thread, the system I use works well for me and for the type of diving that I do. I'm not the one advocating other people to change their system to match mine
Incidentally I still check the MOD markings during switches, and I still confirm that I have the right reg in my mouth, even though I use r/r l/l. But it's a confirmation rather than a required step
That's a pretty terrible analogy... based on that, instead of sucking on my own regulator, I'd get my buddy to do it for me
But, I take your point - utilise the resources that are there in their most effective manner. That's team diving. My SMB is a resource, I use it. My buddy to me is someone to go diving with and a backup - like the support divers or the spare stage bottles on the boat. I only use them if/when I need to use them. I practice doing everything myself when I don't need to, so I know I can do it if I do
Not everyone follows DIR/GUE/UTD and nor should they
Incidentally I still check the MOD markings during switches, and I still confirm that I have the right reg in my mouth, even though I use r/r l/l. But it's a confirmation rather than a required step
That's a pretty terrible analogy... based on that, instead of sucking on my own regulator, I'd get my buddy to do it for me
But, I take your point - utilise the resources that are there in their most effective manner. That's team diving. My SMB is a resource, I use it. My buddy to me is someone to go diving with and a backup - like the support divers or the spare stage bottles on the boat. I only use them if/when I need to use them. I practice doing everything myself when I don't need to, so I know I can do it if I do
Not everyone follows DIR/GUE/UTD and nor should they
Cross body. Right upper D-ring to left hip D-ring. Don't worry about the long hose trapping issue. If you need to donate, hand off that deco reg, but make sure you left the valve on. If it leaks you'll be able to see the bubbles. (I learned that in another recent thread, never realized how quickly it would come in useful.)
That's a pretty terrible analogy... based on that, instead of sucking on my own regulator, I'd get my buddy to do it for me
Careful what you wish for. That's been done as a joke over on TDS before...
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Well, I guess I could hang both stage bottles on my left side... increasing the chances of switching to the wrong one, which are currently about zero... and forcing me to check the MOD, that I've turned on the correct valve & have the correct second stage in my hand, and getting my buddy to double check for me
Yeah, that sounds like a huge improvement
If I was using 3 or more stages, or in overhead with a can light, then yeah sure. But in open water, with good vis, doing gas switches at 21m and 6m? Why make it any more complicated than it needs to be
Yeah, that sounds like a huge improvement
If I was using 3 or more stages, or in overhead with a can light, then yeah sure. But in open water, with good vis, doing gas switches at 21m and 6m? Why make it any more complicated than it needs to be
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See, I knew this thread was worthwhile... only 40 pages in and it's already produced 1 new member profile
Blackwood
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Well, I guess I could hang both stage bottles on my left side... increasing the chances of switching to the wrong one, which are currently about zero... and forcing me to check the MOD, that I've turned on the correct valve & have the correct second stage in my hand, and getting my buddy to double check for me
Yeah, that sounds like a huge improvement
If I was using 3 or more stages, or in overhead with a can light, then yeah sure. But in open water, with good vis, doing gas switches at 21m and 6m? Why make it any more complicated than it needs to be
It's really not complicated at all.
I personally value a consistent approach. Knowing me, if I started changing up my methodology according to the dive profile (e.g. two bottles = one per side but three = something else with entirely different switching protocol) I'd likely make a potentially fatal error. Instead, I use the same system regardless of what I'm carrying.
One bottle? Sling charged/off bottle from the left, read MOD and analysis label, verify MOD with buddy, deploy hose, test purge and observe gauge dropping, turn valve on, test purge and gauge maintaining pressure, swap regs and clip off primary.
Takes all of about 20 seconds.
Two bottles? Sling charged/off bottles from the left, read MOD and analysis label, verify MOD with buddy, deploy hose, test purge and observe gauge dropping, turn valve on, test purge and gauge maintaining pressure, swap regs and clip off primary. Next gas switch, same procedure.
More and more bottles may involve a leash and moving them around, but always to the left, allowing the same switching procedure (but note I'm not doing 3+ bottle dives)
It works for me, and I have confidence in the system. Like I said, if I did it one way for one bottle and a different way for two or more, I'd likely screw up. YMMV.
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