4th element users - need ideas for which one to get

[manni-yunk]

I will be diving a Bare XCD2 in NJ where typical water temp (at depth) is about 50-55 )although mid summer it stays in the low 60's at depth) on the bottom and 65-70 on top.


Dive times are varied - but right up to the NDL in depths about 85 - 115 ft.


I was thinking Artic - does that seem right or will I be to warm?


Im not someone who usually gets cold easy. I have been diving a Bare 2 piece 7mil - and have dove in temps in the high 40's - that was the dive that convinced me to get a drysuit!

Ive also done Dutch Springs in November with a 7mil and done 3 dives/day without being cold.

 

[RJP]

I was thinking Artic - does that seem right or will I be to warm?

That's what I use with my TLS-350. I often layer a thin layer of capilene underneath early/late in the year.

I hear reports from DEMA they are coming out with a one-piece suit.

 

[Nixdax]

Yup, arctic is about right. Depending upon preference you may want to add a layer of under armor cold gear or similar underneath it.

 

[Jax]

Have you checked out the layering guide app on their site ?

 

[manni-yunk]

Have you checked out the layering guide app on their site ?

Yes - but as I mentioned - I am diving a Bare XCD2 which is crushed neo - their layering guide says it is based on a "membrane/Trilam suit". Their site offers no suggestions specific to Neo or Crushed Neo layering.

 

[Paco II]

If the OP does not get cold that easily, the Arctic may be too warm. I dive a Pinnacle Black Ice, which is 7mm thermocompressed to 4.5mm, which I believe is just a bit thicker than the Bare the OP has. I wear a Xerotherm top and bottom in roughly 52F water, and I am very comfortable. In low 50s, Arctic would probably be ok, but in low 60s it is very likely Arctic will be too warm. OP might want to consider Xerotherm top/bottom, with additional layer(s) for the colder dives.

 

[Saudi-Diver]

I dive a 4mm crushed Neoprene dry suit ( Scubapro everdry 4) in Scotland and use the 4th element Arctic suit under it with ice breaker merino wool undies its the best combination and works really well for me.

 

[RoyN]

I think arctic would be good. Once I get my black ice, I'll still use the arctic and get the jacket for it.

 

[cheeko8080]

I dive in these same locations in an O'three ri2/100 crushed neoprene drysuit with an Arctic underneath and am perfectly fine. I do get cold easy though and I find this level of thermal protection to be the bare minimum for me to stay warm.

 

[horsediver1]

I use the Artic under a CF200 DUI from 60 or so F down to 50, I then add Underarmor which is a tight fitting poly type base layer. Water temp down to 33 here in MN and still good for 1- 1/2 hr dives.
Been a good combo for me.