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James Goddard once bubbled...
In your backyard pool yes. Any pool designed for lap swimming (i.e. pool's with lane lines) this will be reduced to the point of hardly being noticable. Lane lines are desgined to dampen waves.
James
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True.. and good point about the book in your post to Victoria. :)
 
Maybe some knowledgeable swimmer out there can tell me my problem. I seem to make enough waves that when I try to breathe I get water in my mouth unless I have my whole face almost to the opposite ear out of the water! Any suggestions? Someone mentioned your shoulders pivoting around your torso. Should the shoulders remain parallel to the surface or should your right shoulder point toward the bottom of the pool when your right arm is pulling through the water? Or is the pivot only on the breathing stroke?
 
adder70 once bubbled...
Maybe some knowledgeable swimmer out there can tell me my problem. I seem to make enough waves that when I try to breathe I get water in my mouth unless I have my whole face almost to the opposite ear out of the water!
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That sounds about right. Watch a good swimmer, they don't just barely lift the mouth out of the water, but actually wind up with most of the face out. Remember, this is not lift face, pause, breath, lower face but one continuous movement. If you barely lift your mouth out you will not have enough time for a proper breath.


Any suggestions? Someone mentioned your shoulders pivoting around your torso. Should the shoulders remain parallel to the surface or should your right shoulder point toward the bottom of the pool when your right arm is pulling through the water? Or is the pivot only on the breathing stroke?
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You should always be pivoting and your breathing should not really come from turing your head as much as turning your body. Pivoting in the water accomplishes two things:

1. It gives more power to your stroke. You're not just using your arms to propel you but your entire body. Think of a golf swing. How far would you hit the ball if you moved nothing but your arms and kept your body in a fixed position?

2. It provides less resistance in the water. Water is extemly dense. Overpowering water resistance is very difficult so it is better to reduce that resistance. When you are on your side during a pivot, you are presenting a much smaller surface area to the water than if you just remain horizontal.

James
 
adder70 once bubbled...
Should the shoulders remain parallel to the surface or should your right shoulder point toward the bottom of the pool when your right arm is pulling through the water? Or is the pivot only on the breathing stroke?
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Not at all....your shoulders should be rotating with your body. This gets your lats and tricepts involved in the stroke and gives you a whole lot more power in the water. By rotating your body as you swim, you also make it easier for the arm that is out of the water to recover to the front for beginning another stroke, b/c your recovering shoulder should be partially out of the water.

Essentially what is ideal is your shoulders, torso, and hips all rotate together with each stroke you take while your head attempts to remain steady and facing slightly up as you swim down the length of the pool. You
 
Did Victoria just invite me go to the UK for free lessons on my 'technique'?

I'd swim the Atlantic for that one, I'd get there when I'm 80, but I'd get there.. :)



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jepuskar once bubbled...
Did Victoria just invite me go to the UK for free lessons on my 'technique'?

I'd swim the Atlantic for that one, I'd get there when I'm 80, but I'd get there.. :)



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Seems all you need is motivation then.... ;)
 
Not to mention I would not be very streamlined...if you know what I mean. Then again, the chilly Atlantic might take care of that for me.

Got the book yesterday, good stuff soo far....I like what I am reading!!

:)
 
Kat has a 3 month old with no arms or legs that can swim 10.000 meters in 20 minutes
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Ohhh, you mean Bath Matt. He's really 13, he's just short for his age.:D

Big t 2538: Doubles :upset: yes, last fall. I think it was harder on me than it was on her.
 
Kat once bubbled...

Big t 2538: Doubles :upset: yes, last fall. I think it was harder on me than it was on her.
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And that my friend is just the beginning....wait until you get to go to some of the huge age-group events where there's 9462 kids trying to pile into 5 lanes for a 20 minute warm up at 5:30 AM b/c there are 20,000 others who haven't arrived yet...

memories....misty water colored memories......
 
We have huge ISI meets (Illinois Swimming Incorporated) Three days, Friday, Sat. & Sunday. Positive check-in at 5 AM heading f/ the car to go home about 7 PM. It's like a camping trip, weve got the cooler, sleeping bags, parkas and four tired, crabby kids & everything is soaking wet. The only thing missing is the campfire & the drinking.

Personally, I think the teams that host these events could make a fortune selling liquor at the concession stand.
 
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