gfaith
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I had a 90 degree adapter spindle get loose. Here are a couple pictures of the o-rings and spindle.
5/32 allen wrench.
5/32 allen wrench.
2nd stage adapters
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I use omni's on all of my regulators. The thing that people fail to do with any of these swivel options is actually service the damned things. Service them when you service your regulators and they will be fine. Service them properly and put loctite on them like you're supposed to, and they will be fine. Fail to put loctite on them and when under pressure, rotate them counter clockwise, and they will spin apart. Very simple. If you carry a wrench in your pocket and one fails, you can always remove it under water if it's that critical.
It is a calculated risk, but one that makes in my opinion and incredibly increase in comfort both going from none to fixed adapters, and another one from fixed to ball swivels.
It is a calculated risk, but one that makes in my opinion and incredibly increase in comfort both going from none to fixed adapters, and another one from fixed to ball swivels.
Boaty McBoatface
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Among those with concern over swivels (right or wrong), does that concern extend to the connection between the hose and the second stage, without an elbow bend?
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PfcAJ
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Yeah those leak sometimes too, but there really isn't another option
Frod
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I used to have swivel before... Stoped using them only cuz it added extra weight to the 2nd stage. I dont like heavy 2nds, as it causes jaws fatigue...
They maybe useful for rubber hoses tho. On Miflex/Braided hoses I dont actually see a point in swivels.
On my SM rig I use 70/110 degree fixed adapter for left bottle. That's actually useful one. With 90 one I had the hose too close to my right cheek, so turning head to the left I always had hose scratching my face.
They maybe useful for rubber hoses tho. On Miflex/Braided hoses I dont actually see a point in swivels.
On my SM rig I use 70/110 degree fixed adapter for left bottle. That's actually useful one. With 90 one I had the hose too close to my right cheek, so turning head to the left I always had hose scratching my face.
Caveeagle
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Everybody is different, but I have found using a 90* on the 2nd stage reduces jaw fatigue by keeping the reg hose close to my neck. But I always live with a long primary hose around behind my neck.
I don't want a reg hose looping way out over a foot to my side, and when I shorten the hose without the 90*, I get jaw fatigue from the short hose tug.
DevonDiver
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I've used 90 and 110/70 degree adaptors on my sidemount short hose. I prefer the 90 degree adaptor.
For me, they have a distinct advantage on sidemount, as I've noted jaw fatigue from the short hose without them. I've never needed one with backmount.
I expect them to have a lifespan of 6 months. For me, that's around 250 dives.
I've never seen one fail catastrophically. Once you see the first 'champagne bubbles' replace it immediately.
Buy two and keep the spare in your 'save-a-dive' kit... helps avoid the temptation to dive with a fault if the failure occurs when you're away from the dive shop.
For me, they have a distinct advantage on sidemount, as I've noted jaw fatigue from the short hose without them. I've never needed one with backmount.
I expect them to have a lifespan of 6 months. For me, that's around 250 dives.
I've never seen one fail catastrophically. Once you see the first 'champagne bubbles' replace it immediately.
Buy two and keep the spare in your 'save-a-dive' kit... helps avoid the temptation to dive with a fault if the failure occurs when you're away from the dive shop.
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