to me an internet forum is about the most casual conversation in existance. if i dont feel like typing formally then i wont. if you feel like you should judge me based upon what my typing skills are portrayed as, then by all means go ahead.
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It's not actually a question of formality or typing skills--it's a question of respect. When a writer can't be bothered to spend the time to compose his thoughts carefully in order to make the communication with the reader as clear as possible and just throws any old thoughts down as they come to mind, with many words misspelled, and with poor punctuation, it makes the reader work much, much harder to puzzle out what the message is meant to be. That's plainly disrespectful; it has nothing to do with typing skills and even less to do with the formality of the situation.to me an internet forum is about the most casual conversation in existance. if i dont feel like typing formally then i wont. if you feel like you should judge me based upon what my typing skills are portrayed as, then by all means go ahead.
to me an internet forum is about the most casual conversation in existance. if i dont feel like typing formally then i wont. if you feel like you should judge me based upon what my typing skills are portrayed as, then by all means go ahead.
to me an internet forum is about the most casual conversation in existance. if i dont feel like typing formally then i wont. if you feel like you should judge me based upon what my typing skills are portrayed as, then by all means go ahead.
Actually you know what? a week ago I would have totally disagreed with you.As far as I'm aware Padi are not and will not ever be an institution in place to improve a persons english skills.Fair enough, I have judged that I have no interest in trying to read incoherent and painful grammar, hence you are now on my ignore list.This is really relevant to the discsussion of the PADI training materials. Clear and concise is one thing, but unnecessary further dumbing down of the English language should be stamped out.Instead, children should be encouraged to stretch their vocabulary and their reading and writing skills. The current PADI materials are just about perfect for this.
Actually you know what? a week ago I would have totally disagreed with you.As far as I'm aware Padi are not and will not ever be an institution in place to improve a persons english skills.
Its there to teach understanding of the principles involved in diving.Therefore if a big long complicated word can LEGITIMATELY be replaced with one that is in more common use I say go for it. Provided the exact message is not diluted.
Keeping in mind I'm not for a moment talking advanced diving.
BUT go figure my lad proved like every kid does when given a chance. Explain the word,explain the concept and they will understand. So darn it maybee padi Isn't intended to improve a kids vocab but it goes right ahead and does it as a side affect of learning the concepts.
Before I do the post propper--This is purely for discussion,Im not having an arguement with ya.I rest my case. And that is why I have a much higher positive attitude to PADI than certain old crusty members of this forum.
Generally speaking, the proper terminology for a concept is the more precise and "correct" way to refer to it for purposes of communication with other people on the same topic. For example, we could change the word"regulator" as we use it in scuba for "breathing equipment" to make it easier for people whose vocabulary doesn't include that word (kids, non-native speakers, people like me with no background in mechanics) but it's important for divers to know the terminology so that communication with other divers is clear. To take the earlier example of the word "residual" which was paraphrased as "left over" or "penalty" in order to make the concept clear, this works great as a teaching strategy, but for the learner, it's still important to also learn the correct terminology so that when RNT is brought up, the "r" for "residual" makes sense. RNT is a term with specific application to scuba diving and being able to understand the term when it comes up makes for clear communication. "Penalty time" might work for people who do sports in English, but it won't make sense to everybody. Precise terminology makes communication clear....when there are two or more options/choices as to what word to use why not use the simplest and therefore least ambiguous?
The way I see it it should be like school. Initially its simple concepts but as you progress so the concepts and terminology get more complex building on what you learned initially.
It's not an "either/or" thing. People can BOTH know the correct terms in order to communicate clearly AND understand the concepts behind the terms.Ok I'll rephrase. Would you rather have a dive buddy at 20m with perfect grammar or one who has a clear understanding of what is needed in an emergency?
Before I do the post propper--This is purely for discussion,Im not having an arguement with ya.
I have no issue with Padi training but when there are two or more options/choices as to what word to use why not use the simplest and therefore least ambiguous?
The way I see it it should be like school. Initially its simple concepts but as you progress so the concepts and terminology get more complex building on what you learned initially.
Keeping in mind what is the ultimate goal? IMO the goal is to create as many safe divers as possible.
Ok I'll rephrase. Would you rather have a dive buddy at 20m with perfect grammar or one who has a clear understanding of what is needed in an emergency?
Generally speaking, the correct terminology for a concept is the more precise and "correct" way to refer to it for purposes of communication with other people on the same topic. For example, we could change the word"regulator" as we use it in scuba for "breathing equipment" to make it easier for people whose vocabulary doesn't include that word (kids, non-native speakers, people like me with no background in mechanics) but it's important for divers to know the terminology so that communication with other divers is clear. To take the earlier example of the word "residual" which was paraphrased as "left over" or "penalty" in order to make the concept clear, this works great as a teaching strategy, but for the learner, it's still important to also learn the correct terminology so that when RNT is brought up, the "r" for "residual" makes sense. RNT is a term with specific application to scuba diving and being able to understand the term when it comes up makes for clear communication. "Penalty time" might work for people who do sports in English, but it won't make sense to everybody. Precise terminology makes communication clear.
It's not an "either/or" thing. People can BOTH know the correct terms in order to communicate clearly AND understand the concepts behind the terms.
You have chosen to present yourself as uneducated and illiterate, knowing that this is how you will be perceived, knowing how it will affect the weight given your positions. Those are your choices. Yes, people will judge you accordingly, but that is a natural reaction to the choices you made.