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    DMs can get in trouble?

    Any chance you know the names of the parties involved? I'm in “compiling mode” and can use all the info I can get. Thanks, JB
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    DMs can get in trouble?

    You didn't believe DMs have been sued and asked for examples. I then posted two bonafide cases. I'm confused because I'm not really proving a point (except to you maybe). It sounds suspiciously like you've already made up your mind that DMs have special protections from the law. I...
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    DMs can get in trouble?

    I'm baffled over the line of thought divemasters don't/can't get sued. Here's a news flash: anyone can be sued for negligence. Divemasters don't have a special exemption. Tancredi v. Dive Makai Charters: In this case the plaintiff filed suit against 1) the corporate entity, 2) the owners...
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    DMs can get in trouble?

    Stumbled upon this: http://www.scubalawyers.com/prodiver.html Markets can't survive in an economic vacuum. These attorneys have jobs because DMs have been successfully sued. JB
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    Why only for advanced?

    I agree with Al and Quarrior. It's more a matter of preference than anything else. I was certified with a bp/w and borrowed the same one for my first year. I have a comfort level with that setup. Rent one, maybe. See if you like it. I think you will. JB
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    blacking of the eyes?

    Older people with a more permanent kind of black discoloration under or around their eyes suffer from a condition that contracts the capillaries in that area. They are treated with heat and drugs that re-dilate the capillaries. The increased blood flow gets rid of the black. Any chance this...
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    The Shield

    It won't take long for Vic to find out that Cavanaugh didn't have a tail on Shane, which was Shane's excuse for being late to the meeting spot. I would say that Shane is a dead man but, though he's not nearly as intelligent as Vic, he's got a worse mean streak. I smell a war. I think...
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    The "Bends"......

    Well, you'll learn. That face means one thing and one thing only... JB
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    DMs can get in trouble?

    Sweet. I did a cursory search in Lexis-Nexis law reviews and didn't come up with anything very promising. I was going to really get after it but a giant tuna sandwich was positioned in my line of site. Looking forward to your post Bruce. JB
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    DMs can get in trouble?

    It's almost as if you never saw Open Water. :) I've realized that as my biggest fear now over Jaws. After watching Open Water (not a good movie, BTW), I think having ONE big shark dispatch you quickly is much preferable to lots of little sharks nibbling on you for days. But that's...
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    DMs can get in trouble?

    As far as I know there are no statutory obligations for a DM. Thus, not likely criminal. This falls squarely in the civil arena. And certainly in a civil court a DM would be found to have a heightened degree of responsibility towards the rest of the divers (and though it's not talked about, a...
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    Did the DM go too far?

    YES! That is a serious faux pas where I'm from. :) JB
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    Did the DM go too far?

    Disregard the sabotage. :)
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    Did the DM go too far?

    It's usually from ignorance or jealousy? Come on, that's not what this thread has been about. Let's not go down that road. Al, I don't understand your reaction very well. I haven't been a part of this board for a long time and might have missed some things but I definitely haven't...
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    Did the DM go too far?

    I think I was pretty clear on my respect for the position. Expressed better yet. That encapsulates my point very nicely. Thank, JB
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    Did the DM go too far?

    A DM, in normal circumstances (and a gas hog situation is pretty normal), should not be offering themselves as a living stage bottle. A portion of his/her tank is someone's bailout air. My point has less to do with addressing this particular situation and more to do with statements implying...
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    Did the DM go too far?

    Deal. If the boundaries you set are dangerous and stupid, I will get off your boat. Air mismanagement is not something a DM (or you for that matter) is "entitled" too. If you think you are entitled to do whatever you want, your designation has gone to your head. I think you should relax...
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    Did the DM go too far?

    What?! Not when I'm on board! I suppose they are entitled to anything needed to run the dive properly. I respect the DM designation, but I won't be giving them carte blanche with my safety, ever. There are some very talented, bright DMs, and there are some fools too. I agree. This was a...
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    Full DIY Gear

    You've hit it on the head, alpaj. Thank you. There's a reason cave divers make cave diving sound very hard. It's not because it's very hard, but because it's very dangerous. They do this because a fool is more likely to avoid hard things than dangerous things. JB
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    Full DIY Gear

    I categorized conservatively to serve a practical purpose. But, to all you write in the above, agreed. JB
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