When Icebergs Melt and Pieces Break Off, Sea Levels Rise?

[tursiops]

Occam's Razor is about simplicity rather than "easier to believe". I find it simpler to address the comment rather than create a narrative without evidence.

Why would you waste time addressing what might be a a false statement? Note that your narrative is that Jill actually misspoke; that is not as likely as the OP having misheard.

 

[Brian G]

Note that your narrative is that Jill actually misspoke

Maybe I should have phrased that differently. I wasn't really trying to create my own narrative. I was trying to address the comment. The OP thought he heard her say something incorrect. People who should know better misspeak all the time and it's frustrating to me, so OP is frustrated (I think) by something they thought they heard. If they misheard, and Jill did say glacier instead of iceberg, then this whole thing could just be ignored. If the OP is correct and Jill did misspeak, then calling them wrong is incorrect.

Jill does know what an iceberg is - at 7:17. Interesting video in general (to me at least).

I'm actually not sure at all about the motivation behind the OP. To me it is a very small thing, but I do like things to be 100% correct. I dislike the generally negative Scubaboard reaction to so many things, to the extent that several posts are attacked so thoroughly that the OP never shows their face on Scubaboard again. Many people responded to the OP with aggressive, incorrect statements about what particular forms ice forms or movement cause sea levels to rise. OP didn't do themselves any favors by responding aggressively either. I probably should have just popped some corn and watched.

I hope everyone's day is wonderful,
Brian

 

[chillyinCanada]

Has anyone other than Norrm seen someone use the word iceberg in a presentation when the word should probably have been glacier?

 

[tech_diver]

I think part of the reason this has gotten so much attention is that this is the type of misstatement that climate change deniers will seize on as evidence of a liberal conspiracy.

There are political ideologies that say global warming is a lie used to promote socialism. They use things like this to make their case.

 

[greeniguana]

Has anyone seen evidence of higher sea levels in their location or in their travels?
I’ll start: I have noticed Boston Wharf getting flooded in storms more than I recall 20 years ago. Not scientific, plus we have lots of small hills to ward off a total inundation so Boston is not looking too worried.

Yes. I am a wetland biologist.

In a little over 20 years I've watched cabbage palm and live oak islands on the gulf coast of FL die off and turn into needlerush marsh. Some folks have been taking a closer look at these "Ghost forests" in recent years:

How Rising Seas Are Killing Southern U.S. Woodlands

I've monitored the same surficial water wells on the gulf coast for nearly 20 years, watching chloride levels (salinity) slowly keep going up. Surficial water is what's at the surface, and does not track the same as groundwater. Saltwater intrusion into groundwater is a whole other issue.

I've been in meetings with barrier island neighborhoods that are frantic because their stormwater retention ponds built 50 years ago no longer work during king tides, which are no longer an infrequent anomaly. This is a big problem, because you can't just dig coastal ponds deeper, and since many islands are built out, you can't make more ponds......

I've watched chunks of marsh disappear from the LA delta. And we're not just talking a few feet... I would set up marsh monitoring points around Terrebone Bay with a GPS only to come back a few months later to find nothing within a thousand yards in any direction.

 

[Angelo Farina]

Here some reliable data on sea level change, due to ice melting, water expansion, etc...
Ice Melt | Global Sea Level – NASA Sea Level Change Portal

 

[Dan]

Again, there are no other types of icebergs than those that float on the water.

You can do your own test, by putting an ice cube into a graduated cylinder half full of sea water. Once the ice cube melted, you’ll see that the sea water level in the graduated cylinder would be higher. It is like leveling a pile of dirt on you sand box.

 

[Brian G]

You can do your own test, by putting an ice cube into a graduated cylinder half full of sea water. Once the ice cube melted, you’ll see that the sea water level in the graduated cylinder would be higher. It is like leveling a pile of dirt on you sand box.

If we stick with fresh water for our experiment, the water level will rise when we put the ice cube in, and the level will not change as the ice cube melts. It is not like leveling dirt.

 

[The Chairman]

FWIW, I don't see this as an earth ending issue. However, global warming may just be a people ending issue. In any event, I have sent a link to this thread to Jill. She might or might not deign to respond here. After all, legends have standards and she might not want to deal with this riffraff.

 

[HalcyonDaze]

Yes. I am a wetland biologist.

In a little over 20 years I've watched cabbage palm and live oak islands on the gulf coast of FL die off and turn into needlerush marsh. Some folks have been taking a closer look at these "Ghost forests" in recent years:

How Rising Seas Are Killing Southern U.S. Woodlands

I've monitored the same surficial water wells on the gulf coast for nearly 20 years, watching chloride levels (salinity) slowly keep going up. Surficial water is what's at the surface, and does not track the same as groundwater. Saltwater intrusion into groundwater is a whole other issue.

I've been in meetings with barrier island neighborhoods that are frantic because their stormwater retention ponds built 50 years ago no longer work during king tides, which are no longer an infrequent anomaly. This is a big problem, because you can't just dig coastal ponds deeper, and since many islands are built out, you can't make more ponds......

I've watched chunks of marsh disappear from the LA delta. And we're not just talking a few feet... I would set up marsh monitoring points around Terrebone Bay with a GPS only to come back a few months later to find nothing within a thousand yards in any direction.

They're seeing the same thing in the Everglades; driving down from the main entrance to Flamingo you will spot mangroves growing in what used to be completely freshwater marshes. Then there are the king tides where bits of the coastline flood, and since the underground utilities in some areas are now getting regularly inundated with seawater it seems like Miami and Fort Lauderdale have had a cavalcade of sewage main breaks lately.