What do you see as the most important "first piece of kit to buy"?

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bradlw

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I'm starting to think about kitting up my family now that they are all certified.
But if I buy for everyone, that's x4 divers $$$

They all, of course, have their masks, fins, snorkels, and booties.
We found a nice 5mm full suit for one daughter
I have my old Zeagle BC that my son could use, since I use my single BP and wing harness now

There's a guy not far away that has a used gear shop. Thinking about going there to see if anything fits.

I'm thinking that finding good BC that fits well is probably the highest priority more so than regulators.

Probably computers second so tehy can start getting used to what it's telling them.

what do ya'll think
 
  • Number one is a well-fitting mask. But they ahve those.
  • I agree; learning a computer is important. Renting one that is a mystery to you is common, and unwise.
  • Many think a reg set is the next purchase; if it is yours, you know its history, condition, and quirks.
  • Exposure suits are high on the list, particularly if anybody is oddly shaped/sized.
  • BCDs ae easily rentable, fairly robust, and all work pretty much the same. Not much to learn/get used to. The are also a pain to travel with...heavy and bulky.
 
After basic snorkel gear...

1. Wetsuit (if prone to feeling cold or diving in cooler waters)
2. Dive computer
3. BCD
4. Regulators
 
I think whether to buy wetsuit or computer next depends on how old your children are. If they're still growing a lot, you might only get 1 season out of the wetsuit. If you plan to dive a lot and they're still growing, you could see if a local dive shop is selling any of their old rental suits (or find used wetsuits somewhere else.) They might be a bit compressed, but it would probably be cheaper than renting a lot for 1 season. If they're still growing but you're not going to dive much, it probably makes more sense to rent the wetsuits.

If you buy dive computers, my advice would be for everyone to have the same computer, or at least everyone running the same algorithm and set to the same level of conservatism. The added bonus of that is that if you ever want to go on a dive trip yourself you can borrow one of their computers for a backup computer for yourself.
 
Mask first. Computer with future AI option second. Air and BCD third. Then fins. Cold water protection in there somewhere if needed.

Note this is the opposite order of renting priority.
 
Mask/Fins is basics - everyone should have them so it doesn’t count.
In my opinion, regulator is the most important piece.
If regulator fails - it could be a life threatening situation. Having high quality breathing aparatus that is serviced and tuned is of unmatched importance. (That is not even counting the comfort and hygienics).
I argue with my buddy frequently who thinks the computer should come before. Most of the computers nowadays provide similar info and run similar algorithms and most of them will provide the important info on the main screen without the need to switch around much. So would I miss my Teric with its ease of menu navigation and SurfGF and compass and everything else - yes! And personally I would buy both from the start, but if we are splitting hairs - air/breathing goes first all day long.
 
I suggest: Get them z cutters, relatively cheap safety device against fishing line, and then take them snorkeling every chance you get that you can’t scuba, because getting in the water frequently will help with comfort during less frequent opportunities to scuba.
 
  • I agree; learning a computer is important. Renting one that is a mystery to you is common, and unwise.
yeah, this one is weird. I come from a time when we were taught analog and tables. Computers were for those try-hard above and beyond divers.

Today, they were told in the class to just look at the computer for ascent rate and to look at the computer for time/deco info....but they were never told where those indications even were on teh screens of those rental computers! For the whole class they were going through the motions of looking at this thing on their wrists but had no idea what any of the numbers and symbols were.
Later with the Nitrox part of the class they were taught how to change the mix, but still weren't taught how to use the thing otherwise
Yeah, things like ascent alerts are fairly simple and obvious, but still.... seems like a big black hole in modern training!
Then when we went diving in the keys, the rental gear didn't even include computers. Dives were so shallow that it didn't really matter, but still

Regardless, it's not lost on me the importance of the computer...especially for divers that do not have any understanding of NDL and planning. They need to learn where to look on the screen, which button to push, etc...
  • Many think a reg set is the next purchase; if it is yours, you know its history, condition, and quirks.
That probably would have always been my answer. The amount of headaches I've seen folks have from free flows, leaks, etc. is crazy and easily preventable by having your own.... then there's the whole "critical life support equipment" thing too
but now I'm questioning that...just because the first bunch of dives are shallow and relatively easy...and rentals are cheap....and it's one less thing the new divers need to worry with.
  • Exposure suits are high on the list, particularly if anybody is oddly shaped/sized.
I'd say THAT, + the fact that not every dive needs it...or needs the same type/thickness of suit

  • BCDs ae easily rentable, fairly robust, and all work pretty much the same. Not much to learn/get used to. The are also a pain to travel with...heavy and bulky.
all great points. I've been considering this more and more to be the higher priority thing though, and here's why.
lll fitting anything...clothing when not diving even can really make a person miserable, like a pair of underwear that wants to ride up into a wedgie when you walk. With a BC there's more to it even than just the ill-fitting annoyance

My daughters are both small for their age and they've had trouble getting BC's that actually fit.
For my wife, well, she's shaped differently than me and so far what we've seen for rentals are either men's fit or generic fit. She hasn't really complained about it but just looks squeezed and uncomfortable! Also, there's a difference between BC's regarding how they float... back inflate tends to put you face down in the water...weight placement affects trim...learning where the attachment points are for your octo, your lights and accesories...etc...

It's starting to seem to me that aside from a properly fitting mask, this is in some ways the most "personal" part of the kit that a diver can dial in and customize for their needs and preferences. Important to get something that fits well, that is comfortable, and you can get used to...
If they're still growing a lot, you might only get 1 season out of the wetsuit.
yeah...and that for sure!
 
Why do you want to buy things? The answers on this thread reflect why other people want to buy things. In an ideal world you woud own those items that are personal - exposure suits and masks are the prime examples. Everything else you can get on rental. So the debate is rental versus ownership.

Do you plan to buy everything? What is the cost benefit of ownership (and service costs) against rental? How many dives do you need to do to justify ownership and will all your family dive that often? Where are you going to dive and how much does it cost to rent? If you have to pay luggage on air travel how does that compare to rental?

I can only guess at your circumstances so my answer of what to buy is like all the others - a wild guess about something I know little about. So buy 4 scooters :cool:
 
Why do you want to buy things? The answers on this thread reflect why other people want to buy things. In an ideal world you woud own those items that are personal - exposure suits and masks are the prime examples. Everything else you can get on rental. So the debate is rental versus ownership.

Do you plan to buy everything? What is the cost benefit of ownership (and service costs) against rental? How many dives do you need to do to justify ownership and will all your family dive that often? Where are you going to dive and how much does it cost to rent? If you have to pay luggage on air travel how does that compare to rental?

I can only guess at your circumstances so my answer of what to buy is like all the others - a wild guess about something I know little about. So buy 4 scooters :cool:
Perhaps you haven't seen the shoddy rental gear that is sometimes offered. You use it -- with trepidation -- or don't dive.
Why would you want to put yourself in that situation?
 

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