Very scared after second pool lesson of Padi open water course.

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I'm not in teaching status for a while now, but isn't breathing without mask pool session 4?
I remember closing the airvalve is done in 1,5 meters?
Can any current PADI instructors correct me?

For those not familiar with the Dutch NOB, it's principally the Dutch CMAS variant.
 
Some of us have very rocky beginnings, keep going, and things even out after a while. My diving is proof of that.

Added for the OP: full cave in August/first rebreather class in October. Took me six years of hard work to get to this point.
 
My gut feeling tells me you'll never dive or at least dive with pleasure. Do not waste your time and force yourself, there are plenty of other things you can do and enjoy.
This has to be one of the worst things I've read on ScubaBoard.

I've had a number of students who various obstacles to learning to dive. Fear of dark water. Fear of enclosed spaces (the mask and restrictive thermal protection. The list goes on and on.

When a student is jumping up and down after earning certification "I can't believe I did it! I can't believe I did it! I can't believe I did it!", that is THE BEST PART of being a dive instructor: contributing to that transformation.
 
I'm not in teaching status for a while now, but isn't breathing without mask pool session 4?
I remember closing the airvalve is done in 1,5 meters?
Can any current PADI instructors correct me?

For those not familiar with the Dutch NOB, it's principally the Dutch CMAS variant.
Confined water 2 is indeed where you turn the air off, at least since 2018. There's no clear specification on depth in the Instructor Manual, though there's an implication the skill is done in water too deep in which to stand. (Based on ordering of skills.) As to why this is done at dive #2: I don't know but I'll speculate. The skill CAN be taught in such a way that the diver "feels" what an emptying tank breathes like and correctly indicate the problem with an out of air sign. This is critical to diving safely and, arguably, could be taught on dive #1.

I'm really curious: How did the instructor teach this? Did you signal out of air and immediately have the air turned back on, or did you have to get air from your buddy's secondary? The standard states "Respond to air depletion by signaling 'out of air.'" There's no mention in the standard of using your buddy's air. I teach it by briefing before we descend, approaching the diver underwater and give them the sign I told them I'd used for "I'm turning off your air" and then "ask" if that's OK. (I've had students decline on other skills because they were nervous, but not this one.) Assuming so, I position behind them and to their left and have them hold their gauges so we both can see the needle. Then I turn off the air. When they signal out of air, I turn it back on.

As an instructor, this OP's situation is scary. That is, the student who gives all appearance of being fine underwater, but isn't. Lots of students mention being nervous after dive 1; I don't always take that too seriously unless a few questions find a deeper anxiety than "this is new and weird but kind of exciting."

In particular, the "breathing underwater is new" worries me. Back in the dark ages when I had to swim uphill in the snow to get to SCUBA school, we learned fairly intensive skindiving skills first. When snorkels didn't have neat little drain valves or devices to minimize water coming down the top of the tube. Students got used to breathing with their face in the water. For me as student, switching to a regulator was so much easier! I looked forward to that as the preferred option for doing things. These days we start with the regulator, and whether it's the slight added tension to inhalation or the vibration of the diaphragm, some students get freaked out by it. Instead of going from harder snorkel to easier reg, we go from easier mouth/nose breathing to harder reg.

On getting the class materials only one day ahead, an honest question for the OP: When did you pay for the class? If you paid weeks ago and didn't immediately (within a day or two anyway) receive an e-mail with explanation of how to access the materials, that's on the dive shop. It's unacceptable. If you paid a couple days ahead, well, that's a different kettle of fish. (Leaving out odd but unfortunate situations like a typo in an e-mail address that could delay things.)

Regardless, it sounds like the pace is a huge issue for you. Slow that down. If you want to continue, keep going with the textbook (well, online) learning until it's completed. Then go back to the pool. You very well might need private le$$on$ in the pool. But maybe not? If the stress of the academic portion is removed, the pool work might be easier.
 
I think snorkeling is still part of the PADI training. Wife spend the first pool session pretty much just snorkeling back and forth and switching from snorkel to reg. Every now and then I catch some flack for not using a snorkel. I see it as just another dangly thing that I never use. I thought about getting a rollup snorkel so I can whip it out when someone complains.

Wife also found it very relaxing to just go to the bottom of the pool, establish buoyancy and just experience the slight rise with every breath in and fall with every exhale.
 
Based on the report of the OP, it sounds like the pace was what was creating feelings of anxiety, not the skills.

An "at your own pace" course may be more appropriate.
 
After almost fifty years diving I'm still scared, I'm starting a cave course today and I'm scared, I'm always scared
That is a fine defensive attitude to take.

There was me thinking you were in your twenties :cool:

Have fun on the course!
 
My gut feeling tells me you'll never dive or at least dive with pleasure. Do not waste your time and force yourself, there are plenty of other things you can do and enjoy.

Way to be supportive 🙄 I got my uncle into diving, he had a VERY shaky start…it was all mental…he worked with a couple different instructors from the same shop. One was able to explain things better and cater to his specific needs, and he passed his OW course. What would have happened if people just told him to quit because the first couple of pool sessions he was nervous and couldn’t do some of the skills?
 
I did not read all the posts. Will only say that I got my OW manual in August of 2005 and studied it very thoroughly prior to my course in October. I was very comfortable in water to begin with, and even with all that I found there was a lot of material and skills to be covered in one pool weekend and a weekend at the ocean. I'm sure the same time frame is available nowadays with e-learning.
 
I think snorkeling is still part of the PADI training. Wife spend the first pool session pretty much just snorkeling back and forth and switching from snorkel to reg. Every now and then I catch some flack for not using a snorkel. I see it as just another dangly thing that I never use. I thought about getting a rollup snorkel so I can whip it out when someone complains.

Wife also found it very relaxing to just go to the bottom of the pool, establish buoyancy and just experience the slight rise with every breath in and fall with every exhale.

No snorkel for my padi cert.

I tied a bolt snap onto a dry snorkel. I use it only on the first dive of the week. Don't even attach it to my mask, I just hold it. It helps me get zen'd and comfortable. Long stride with my reg in. Switch to snorkel in the water. Hopefully remember to switch to my reg when we go under. Snap it to my butt ring or right waist ring, where it's unnoticeable.

I love snorkeling. So it's kind of a touchstone for diving. 20 min on a snorkel before the 1st dive, drastically improves my air consumption for the whole week. Even though I leave it on the boat for all the other dives.

It's all in my head maybe, but there's worse superstitions to have.
 
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