DIR- GUE Why are non-GUE divers so interested in what GUE does?

[wetb4igetinthewater]

That is my local group and I can personally attest to the fact that they still exhibit some of the old attitudes and behaviors, much more so than other chapters I have interacted with. I honestly believe it is an unsustainable strategy.

There are still some people who have drunk that Kool Aid (some are on here). But do you really think that this is a GUE HQ mandate/strategy anymore?

 

[lostsheep]

There are still some people who have drunk that Kool Aid (some are on here). But do you really think that this is a GUE HQ mandate/strategy anymore?

Did I say I that or are you suffering from confirmation bias? I deliberately contrasted my local chapter with other chapters.

 

[Wibble]

Did I say I that or are you suffering from confirmation bias? I deliberately contrasted my local chapter with other chapters.

Chapters? Like Hell's Angles — must be a V-twin

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

Did I say I that or are you suffering from confirmation bias? I deliberately contrasted my local chapter with other chapters.

No you didn't but I see how some people extrapolate it. That's part of the problem in this thread with one particular person. I don't deny that some people are like this, but I've been criticized on a dive boat in the Dominican Republic for having a long hose configuration. I've encountered a number of PADI folks like this. Do I label PADI as a clown organization trying to dumb down all divers? Of course not.

 

[lostsheep]

Chapters? Like Hell's Angles — must be a V-twin

I don’t speak the queens English so I’ll leave it to you to pick your favorite synonym. SMDH

 

[Ouvea]

That is my local group and I can personally attest to the fact that they still exhibit some of the old attitudes and behaviors, much more so than other chapters I have interacted with. I honestly believe it is an unsustainable strategy.

Has this occurred in recent time? I know all the tech divers of that club and the older members who joined from the club's inception, which probably dates back to those "dark times." Haven't seen anyone lecture other divers or even attemtp to sway them toward GUE training. You might have that evangelical recent Fundamentals student, but the long time members just want to dive. Some that train through GUE and join our club, but I don't think a large portion does.

The club organizes boat trips for its members according to the dive profile (deco/no deco). I don't know of any strategy beyond this. People network with each other to train and dive. I never witnessed the "dark time," but I hope the days of the Global Underwater Evangelists have faded into history.

 

[Blackcrusader]

I don’t speak the queens English so I’ll leave it to you to pick your favorite synonym. SMDH

 

[LordHavoc]

Not GUE but I have seen that style of diving in UTD. I follow UTD podcasts and also GUE publications because they have good information. I am interested because it has helped me understand a few things. Importance of people replicating same configuration. Good buoyancy management. Buddy awareness. Not going deeper than 100 without helium. These are important lessons.

 

[Lorenzoid]

Not GUE but I have seen that style of diving in UTD. I follow UTD podcasts and also GUE publications because they have good information. I am interested because it has helped me understand a few things. Importance of people replicating same configuration. Good buoyancy management. Buddy awareness. Not going deeper than 100 without helium. These are important lessons.

I don't know if you read the whole thread, but later in the thread it is asked why, if you're interested in these facets of the GUE system (or UTD, I suppose), have you not taken GUE's Fundies (or UTD's Essentials) course? Several people mentioned the cost of the course as a reason. I think I also recall someone saying something along the lines of that, while they appreciate learning these various facets or pieces of the system, the idea of conforming to the system as a whole turns them off. You?

 

[LordHavoc]

I don't know if you read the whole thread, but later in the thread it is asked why, if you're interested in these facets of the GUE system (or UTD, I suppose), have you not taken GUE's Fundies (or UTD's Essentials) course? Several people mentioned the cost of the course as a reason. I think I also recall someone saying something along the lines of that, while they appreciate learning these various facets or pieces of the system, the idea of conforming to the system as a whole turns them off. You?

I do not know the costs. I will have to search them. Sorry Im so ignorant. I am considering a cave class by a UTD instructor. If the output is significantly higher then I will pay for it. I do not know the overall standard of cave training to compare if it is fair to pay more.