Resort's " New Normal " Rule - No AIR 2 or diving your long hose

[d^2b]

Best advice I could ever give anyone in diving: Think for yourself!!!

To repeat a point you (and others) made earlier, talk to your buddy.

 

[The Chairman]

talk to your buddy.

Before you splash.

 

[Blackcrusader]

That has to be the most stupid thing I’ve ever heard a diver to do. To deliberately make themselves sick and risk choking for training

I was not a pleasant experience but it is not done underwater either. Vomiting is normal it is how you deal with that when it is unexpected and you are underwater. If the Korean lass had that training she would not have drowned trying to reach the surface with no regulator in her mouth from 20m depth. Should would not have been in a coma for several weeks. There is training there is practice and there are real life experiences. People have seen me puke and gone ewwwwhhh.... then ask me after the dive about how to deal with it as they themselves have not had that experience. They do find the fish feeding part amusing though. Sooner or later people will vomit underwater, those who are prepared for it will likely survive without incident, some will not. I am glad I was given that training.

My advice is to keep one hand over your reg and make sure you don't spit it out. I've seen divers get sick on the boat before arriving at a dive site and I ask what they would do if they were underwater, I get back these blank stares of like this does not compute who would even do such a thing. Even commercial divers can get sick. As I wrote before, maybe my BSAC instructor who was a commercial diver taught us things that perhaps weren't strictly in the manual. But I'm still alive after all these years as I can remain calm even in difficult circumstances. Ipecac is also given to toddlers if they have ingested poisons... to make them vomit.

I do know that many divers complained about the rescue course we did being too realistic. They thought having a madman on top of them holding them underwater ripping off their mask and gear was too much. What is the point of training if it does not deal with real life situations? A little pre dive puke training could very well save someones life in my humble opinion. I think it is something that is lacking in OW and AOW courses.

 

[Blackcrusader]

Perhaps, but you shouldn't do that.

Don't we remind divers to always keep their regs in their mouth?

 

[Edward3c]

Before you splash.

When diving on holiday (sorry vacation) I've had a few guides say they've not dived with someone more experienced than them in ages. I remind they they are the more experienced in their waters than I am, that's why their the guide and I'm the guest.

 

[chillyinCanada]

Don't we remind divers to always keep their regs in their mouth?

Yes, and it was certainly emphasized in my OW class that you could throw up into your reg and how to handle that. I never forgot and 22 or so years later, I had reason to be happy that I remembered. Everything went just as taught.

You can throw up in your reg. Do not remove it from your mouth because a very natural body response to barfing is a deep breath in between expelling. You might think that you can control that but there's no guarantee. Wouldn't you rather be purging your reg than drowning?

 

[The Chairman]

Don't we remind divers to always keep their regs in their mouth?

You might, but I certainly don't. Why are you afraid of having your regulator out of your mouth? I do it to take a picture, to switch regs on sidemount, to have cleaner shrimp clean my teeth, to blow kisses at whomever, and when I surface, if the seas aren't too rough. That's not even an exhaustive list.

A little pre dive puke training could very well save someones life in my humble opinion.

I understand your reticence now. No, you don't have to die if you take your reg out of your mouth, even to puke. I have never been "trained" to puke underwater. Yeah, I read the sentence in the PADI manual and thought then that it was not for me. It's not a matter of training, but a matter of comfort. One of my above standard exercises is buddy breathing while swimming. It is often an epiphany for the student and I would hate to have to eliminate it from training. We start out just by taking alternate breaths on the same regulator. At the beginning, it's often 6 student breaths to my one. When I get them down to 2 or 3 for every breath I take, we start our swim. By the time we get to the end of the pool, they are a changed diver. They have figured out that they won't die with their reg out of their mouth. I am often taking 3 or 4 breaths for their every two by this time.

 

[chillyinCanada]

You might, but I certainly don't. Why are you afraid of having your regulator out of your mouth? I do it to take a picture, to switch regs on sidemount, to have cleaner shrimp clean my teeth, to blow kisses at whomever, and when I surface, if the seas aren't too rough. That's not even an exhaustive list.

I understand your reticence now. No, you don't have to die if you take your reg out of your mouth, even to puke. I have never been "trained" to puke underwater. Yeah, I read the sentence in the PADI manual and thought then that it was not for me. It's not a matter of training, but a matter of comfort. One of my above standard exercises is buddy breathing while swimming. It is often an epiphany for the student and I would hate to have to eliminate it from training. We start out just by taking alternate breaths on the same regulator. At the beginning, it's often 6 student breaths to my one. When I get them down to 2 or 3 for every breath I take, we start our swim. By the time we get to the end of the pool, they are a changed diver. They have figured out that they won't die with their reg out of their mouth. I am often taking 3 or 4 breaths for their every two by this time.

I don't recall being told to never take my reg out of my mouth. Being told to keep it in my mouth was specific to barfing underwater during the dive. If you've never violently vomited in your life, then I congratulate you for never having had food poisoning or a serious tummy bug.

Otherwise, I often take my reg out of my mouth for various things, mostly photos. I've never been able to get the shrimp to clean my teeth. I'm still learning the signals to get them to do my nails properly.

 

[The Chairman]

I can think of several episodes of tossing my cookies underwater. Many were violent, a few not so much. At the risk of really going off topic, I was in the Keys and was diving with a bunch of SBers on a Saurday morning. Oh, I could feel the beginnings of an epic flu coming on. On our second dive by the bow of the Benwood, I gave it up. I pulled out my reg and cast my bread under the waters. Oh, i was sick.

The problem was that I was to guide a family out of Miami in the afternoon. I called and told my partner that I couldn't dive that afternoon... but that was unacceptable. Instead, she brought me all sorts of flu meds and even one for sea sickness. Reluctantly, I went on the boat, got them all ready and we splashed. 5 minutes into the dive and the world spun. I saw a rock, grabbed it, spit out my reg, tucked my chin into my chest and let her rip. The fish swarmed me and I cussed each and every one. The world slowly stopped spinning and we continued the dive. Every few minutes, the world would spin I would grab another rock and both dives seemed to last forever. Thank God Dad's air consumption was off the charts. As we got off the boat, Dad tipped me $200. Wow. Thanks! Why so generous? I felt I had really let them down by being sick. He told me that I was the "fish whisperer" and that he had never seen someone pray for fish like that.

We all dive differently. That's OK. Just stay safe.

 

[chillyinCanada]

I can think of several episodes of tossing my cookies underwater. Many were violent, a few not so much. At the risk of really going off topic, I was in the Keys and was diving with a bunch of SBers on a Saurday morning. Oh, I could feel the beginnings of an epic flu coming on. On our second dive by the bow of the Benwood, I gave it up. I pulled out my reg and cast my bread under the waters. Oh, i was sick.

The problem was that I was to guide a family out of Miami in the afternoon. I called and told my partner that I couldn't dive that afternoon... but that was unacceptable. Instead, she brought me all sorts of flu meds and even one for sea sickness. Reluctantly, I went on the boat, got them all ready and we splashed. 5 minutes into the dive and the world spun. I saw a rock, grabbed it, spit out my reg, tucked my chin into my chest and let her rip. The fish swarmed me and I cussed each and every one. The world slowly stopped spinning and we continued the dive. Every few minutes, the world would spin I would grab another rock and both dives seemed to last forever. Thank God Dad's air consumption was off the charts. As we got off the boat, Dad tipped me $200. Wow. Thanks! Why so generous? I felt I had really let them down by being sick. He told me that I was the "fish whisperer" and that he had never seen someone pray for fish like that.

We all dive differently. That's OK. Just stay safe.

You do you, boo.

I'm a gonna keep my reg in my mouth.

As it happens over the years I've found myself quite a bit more concerned about a Warhammer. So far successfully avoided but never say never, yikes