When will Coz re-open?

[Ministryofgiraffes]

You can fly in there now, and I'm sure someone will rent you a room. Diving...not so much.

Yes, I get that...but the question is more about doing the right thing to support people who are struggling and need us to spend money as opposed to coming because the governor and hotels have said ‘come down we are open for business’ and then being met with people saying ‘look at these @sses who have come here to be able to brag that they are the first past the post etc’

on the other side of the equation you have places like St Lucia saying ‘get your @asses down here and spend money’ and it seems to be a consistent message...

 

[horn34]

So equally ambiguous....it seems there is no right answer.

‘come and spend your money to help us but definitely don’t come because it will endanger us and you. Do not believe the tourist agency or cultural representatives when they say that the hotels will be open on a certain date, only the governor can decide that, but when he does decide and says you can come On that date and the hotels will be open, don’t come... We look forward to not seeing you soon or later’

The QRoo governor's announcement a few days ago was pretty straight forward. He said he expects to welcome tourists starting between June 8-10, as long as the COVID-19 numbers allow for it at that time.

As to the "don't come here yet" cries, I pretty much tune them out. The majority of those voices come from ex-pats posting on facebook/travel forums who, for the most part, have more money in current savings then the average Mexican sees in 6 months.

 

[P-Dog]

I'm booked for Cozumel in October. Was supposed to be there in April, but the resort shut down two days before I was due to go.

 

[mediumone]

The QRoo governor's announcement a few days ago was pretty straight forward. He said he expects to welcome tourists starting between June 8-10, as long as the COVID-19 numbers allow for it at that time.

As to the "don't come here yet" cries, I pretty much tune them out. The majority of those voices come from ex-pats posting on facebook/travel forums who, for the most part, have more money in current savings then the average Mexican sees in 6 months.

I've heard the same thing - locals are anxious for the tourists return, and the expats are looking down their noses at their fellow "Americans". Source was a 15 year Cozumel resident.

More than the average Mexican sees in 6 Months? Pfft - probably more like 6 years.

As we live our lives, we make choices as to what our acceptable levels of risk are. I may go into a convenience store, survey the environment and go in without a mask on. I did that recently when the door to the store was open, the clerk had a mask and gloves on, and there was a plexiglass shield separating us, and just one other person in the store. I could easily maintain distance from the two humans. Yes, it was arguably risky, but appealed to my sense of acceptable risk.

I look at returning to Cozumel in the same light. Obviously, flights, lodging, and diving have to be open. At that time I'll evaluate it in terms of my notion of acceptable risk.

 

[mediumone]

I'm booked for Cozumel in October. Was supposed to be there in April, but the resort shut down two days before I was due to go.

Our plans, (then and now), as well.

 

[ggunn]

I wish that doing those things from an individual's perspective would it make it seem worthwhile.

As do we all. If everyone else is taking extreme precautions, then as an individual you can likely do anything and go anywhere you want with very low risk. If everyone else were to come to the same conclusion and act upon it, however, we would be back in the caca.

 

[ggunn]

The QRoo governor's announcement a few days ago was pretty straight forward. He said he expects to welcome tourists starting between June 8-10, as long as the COVID-19 numbers allow for it at that time.

Which is a pretty safe thing to say weeks out from that date with the caveat at the end.

 

[BRT]

So equally ambiguous....it seems there is no right answer.

‘come and spend your money to help us but definitely don’t come because it will endanger us and you. Do not believe the tourist agency or cultural representatives when they say that the hotels will be open on a certain date, only the governor can decide that, but when he does decide and says you can come On that date and the hotels will be open, don’t come... We look forward to not seeing you soon or later’

And that is the problem.

 

[ggunn]

And that is the problem.

Yep. Rock vs hard place.

 

[ChuckP]

Yes, I get that...but the question is more about doing the right thing to support people who are struggling and need us to spend money as opposed to coming because the governor and hotels have said ‘come down we are open for business’ and then being met with people saying ‘look at these @sses who have come here to be able to brag that they are the first past the post etc’

on the other side of the equation you have places like St Lucia saying ‘get your @asses down here and spend money’ and it seems to be a consistent message...

Take a look around the Caribbean and see how many active cases there are. St Lucia who you reference is about the same size as Cozumel and has zero active cases, they've had much more strict measures than we did here in Cozumel - in fact most islands I looked at had much stricter guidelines than we had here, and most islands are at very few if any active cases today.

Compare that to what happened here - a ramping up of restrictions here instead of a shutdown. Never a shut down of intercity travel (some small towns have) and the passenger ferry still runs and anyone can cross. Cancun and Playa I understand didn't have a curfew until just recently.. People are relaxed to the restrictions and every day it gets more and more lax.

So you have other Caribbean Islands that hammered lockdowns and brought their active cases to near zero verses Mexico that gradually increased restrictions but never really closed the door - the state of Q Roo has the highest active cases to date right now - after the fact judgement is easy.

I myself am worried about this reopening - these folks have been without work for two months and we aren't in any better situation, this place can't afford to screw this up - two months pissed away gaining nothing, are we going to open for a few months then close back down for another two? Are we going to reopen under these conditions and drag this out another six months while St Lucia is bopping around with no problems?? Add to the fact that the coming months of tourists typically come from in country, the same country that's exhibited little to no control of this problem. I don't think you can consider the Riviera Maya and Topeka Kansas the same way, we will be getting people from all over coming here, much different.

I want to see Cozumel succeed, I want to see Melgar full of tourists, I want to see local families socializing in the streets after dark like we used too - we don't want to see desperate people make a desperate decision that will feed you today but starve you tomorrow.