SPGs on CCRs
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Hey, my rEvo is my starter ccr. Think how much I’ll appreciate it when I eventually upgrade! 
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I bought my second rebreather first...
I'm not beating up the fathom, never dove it, know virtually nothing about it. But what happens to support if the one man show loses passion or focus, gets sick or dies.
There's no guarantee that someone can pick up the yoke and muscle on, leaving owners in the same lurch as Titan or Explorer owners.
There's no guarantee that someone can pick up the yoke and muscle on, leaving owners in the same lurch as Titan or Explorer owners.
Although this issue also applies to the Kiss, Megs and possibly JJs too. At least on a mCCR with fisher cable monitoring, the "electronics" of a Kiss or Fathom are about as versatile as possible. Kiss kind of limped along as a company for many years until Mike bought it and moved it to AR.
APs, Optimas, and Revos are probably the most "corporate" units out there. But so was the Boris and its an evolutionary dead end for sure now.
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Interesting side issue. As a JJ diver, I am very interested in Jan's health and continued interest in the manufacture of fine rebreather products. It is a bit disconcerting to realize that all of your complex gear could become orphaned because of the vagaries of the world in a moment. And certainly big companies have big cash and credit reserves to support R&D or to weather a bad business cycle.
On the other hand, having your CCR be a tiny part of the business plan of a huge corporation has it's drawbacks too. Hollis and Huish, Revo and Mares, etc... I can imagine that some executive might one day notice that they make as much selling mask straps as they do selling rebreathers, with none of the liability.
On the other hand, having your CCR be a tiny part of the business plan of a huge corporation has it's drawbacks too. Hollis and Huish, Revo and Mares, etc... I can imagine that some executive might one day notice that they make as much selling mask straps as they do selling rebreathers, with none of the liability.
Ken would know way more than me, but personally one factor that helped my decision to buy the fathom is that it is not full of proprietary parts. Most wires/electronics (minimal we're talking sensor attachments and the hud) can be fixed by someone with basic electronics knowledge. For instance, the HUD is just a Narced at 90 HUD, but he's removed the brain box and put all those bits and pieces into a compartment in the head. It could be easily repaired by someone slightly smarter than me. I can't foresee my can going bad or cracking. So I really don't have anything to worry about if Charlie goes bye bye. Other rebreathers I looked at had a lot of proprietary parts, and that was a turn off.
Thats a very good point. Big corporations, especially American corporations will drop a product and supplier at the drop of a hat if the spread sheet says so. Look at Teledyne and the recreational O2 cell market. Made life for AP a bit sticky for a while, and those of us with units.
The reassuring thing is that AP now have there own O2 cells, and are masters of their own fate.
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