Absolutely Insane Dive Video - Cozumel

[boulderjohn]

and sometimes you see things like this
changing O-ring 80 feet deep Holguin Cuba
[video=youtube;y6JgLB7Nlns]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6JgLB7Nlns[/video]

I was with a DM when he fixed his own O-ring when it extruded. As soon as the eruption of bubbles occurred, he pulled off his BCD and shut off his air. When I saw what he was doing, I offered an alternate while I helped hold the BCD. He clearly thought he could do it all on one breath, but he did reluctantly take one sip off my regulator before turning his air back on.

 

[JohnN]

I was with a DM when he fixed his own O-ring when it extruded. As soon as the eruption of bubbles occurred, he pulled off his BCD and shut off his air. When I saw what he was doing, I offered an alternate while I helped hold the BCD. He clearly thought he could do it all on one breath, but he did reluctantly take one sip off my regulator before turning his air back on.

Impressive, would wouldn't his life been less stressful if he was using a DIN tank and regulator

 

[boulderjohn]

Impressive, would wouldn't his life been less stressful if he was using a DIN tank and regulator

He was using a DIN tank and a regulator.

 

[JohnN]

He was using a DIN tank and a regulator.

Awesome ! Not sure how that could happen as long as the reg is completely screwed into the valve, but poo does happen.

 

[TONY CHANEY]

You don't sound very well seasoned to be so BLACK and WHITE. You put divers who are having real issues in front to keep an eye. This guy was simply an air hog, from what I saw. I didn't see any reg malfunction, other than the usual freeflow when a reg is moved out of mouth. The DM, wisely, turned the sensitivity down a notch.

Yet, what you are forgetting is that a simple problem at first can change very fast to an OS situation. Diving is like drugs...one + one often equals 3.

Yea, the DM tuned the diver's reg....by why keep him on the long hose instead of having hime breath from his own reg?

---------- Post added April 8th, 2014 at 08:46 PM ----------

Who's falling into anything screwed up or justifying it? I just explained what is happening and then re-explained where you could find the information to support the explanation.

Extending a dive by extending a diver's air supply long before he is low on air violates no safety rules or dive instruction concepts or dive master training. The diver still has his own air supply that is well stocked with air during this entire process, he goes back on his own air supply and continues the dive.

You might not like it because you're still getting over the shock of discovering this goes on, but it doesn't make the process wrong on the basis of safety.

The side effect I have witnessed many times, is newbie divers who go on the long hose, suddenly develop an very enhanced awareness of their breathing and buoyancy and start calming down and stop their water bug routine of flying all over the reef, up and down motion in the water column and start to realize that drift diving is about slow and steady and a relaxed state of diving. I've seen many divers who go on the long hose at the beginning of their dive vacation transform dramatically during their series of dives over a week and fall out of the rotation of the long hose as they become better at their air consumption. That long hose gets them acutely aware that air consumption is an important skill to begin working on and they become acutely aware that there are other divers in the groups they dive with and that better air consumption is a positive trait to have and appreciated by their fellow divers with them.

I'm not stating that any of the above is good or bad, only stating the experience witnessed.

I have had my fair share of resort dives and have seen a great amount of FU but that those not make it right. I feel we are here to push diving into a more positive and safe direction. So with your thought on the situation you are OK with http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/ac...ool-riviera-maya-2-brazillian-1-spaniard.html because it has been done time and time again.
If that is cool with you then please dive more, post less and promote diving in a better and safer manner. I know you will not but just a suggestion.

 

[Garth]

Edd Sorenson had a lecture that I was really impressed with that describe accident analysis as being rooted in " a feeling of security often while unaware of or unconcerned with unpleasant realities or harmful possibilities..."

Everyone should take the time to listen to this video. It's long but if you have heard of the heroic efforts that this guy has done to save not one, but multiple people lost in a cave for one reason or another.

breathing off someone's regulator at 100' without a care in the world may be a feeling of security because of this DM.

http://youtu.be/zfLtb4ci0J8

I don't know Edd yet but everyone could stand to learn of a few things from his presentation. I can't wait to meet him.

Garth



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[diver 85]

Noticed the same. Is this what Cozumel has to offer?

I've been to better......In fact, every time we go back I always tell my wife 'never again'.........But I'm a slow learner.....

But for us, a 2 hour plane trip & we're diving that afternoon........Oh well......NEVER again---& I'm sticking to my words, this time.........

---------- Post added April 8th, 2014 at 05:47 PM ----------

Edd Sorenson had a lecture that I was really impressed with that describe accident analysis as being rooted in " a feeling of security often while unaware of or unconcerned with unpleasant realities or harmful possibilities..."

Everyone should take the time to listen to this video. It's long but if you have heard of the heroic efforts that this guy has done to save not one, but multiple people lost in a cave for one reason or another.

breathing off someone's regulator at 100' without a care in the world may be a feeling of security because of this DM.

nss cds convention - edd - YouTube

I don't know Edd yet but everyone could stand to learn of a few things from his presentation. I can't wait to meet him.

Garth



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Had to look it up & I was correct.....I bought a DR BP/W from ole Edd........very nice guy from what I remember(that was ~4 years ago).......

 

[boulderjohn]

Yea, the DM tuned the diver's reg....by why keep him on the long hose instead of having hime breath from his own reg?

Try reading post #39.

 

[Mike]

Yea, the DM tuned the diver's reg....by why keep him on the long hose instead of having hime breath from his own reg?

The dive master put the diver on the long hose to extend the bottom time of the entire group, no other reason.

So with your thought on the situation you are OK with http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/ac...ool-riviera-maya-2-brazillian-1-spaniard.html because it has been done time and time again.
If that is cool with you then please dive more, post less and promote diving in a better and safer manner. I know you will not but just a suggestion.

I'm not promoting anything.

Again- I just explained what is happening and then re-explained where you could find the information to support the explanation.

 

[Garth]

Seriously? Are you kidding or do you just not get it?

THE DIVE MASTER PUT HIM ON HIS LONG HOSE TO EXTEND THE BOTTOM TIME FOR THE ENTIRE GROUP

I think Tony thinks that's ridiculous and so do I.

Edited: this practice is stupid. There is a better way to extend bottom time.


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