Geting Paid to Dive in Cozumel

[firstdive2005]

COZ , IN MY NEVER SO HUMBLE OPINION WILL ALWAYS BE THE GREATEST, COOLEST DIVE SPOT FOR ME. Regardless of what dive shop owners do with their employees there are very. very few dive mishaps and even fewer dive op hurts. THAT'S ALL I CARE. PLUS Cozumel has fabulous care at the chamber. I think the advertizing should end now. Let's get back to cheer leading it's more fun.

 

[Mike]

Most of these statements are correct but it is legitimate crap to say that 65-70usd payed to some smaller dive shops makes it impossible to pay for support for the staff. If the shop decides to do it then the dms make less money. Period. I know several small ops that pay like this. They also have smaller volume boats, and maybe a little less 'service given'. Some still do the full meal deal. The owners make less money but stay busy. There is a lot of self horn blowing going on here!!!!!

Kevin, I understand your point, but for everyone you show me who is actually doing what you're saying, doing it because they have the mythical "low-over head", you'll find 20 who aren't. Real low prices can sometimes mean somebody simply likes to work for basically nothing and is donating their lives to the endeavour for whatever grandious reasons we want to project on them, but for the most part the reality is the opposite, and it's somebody operating illegally and low-balling legitimate businesses, undermines the market and keeps living wages unattainable, the results usually effect those who can afford it least which are the workers, they end up screwed eventually.

 

[DandyDon]

There is a reason that companies like Aldora and some others have their rates set so much higher than others, perhaps it wasn't because they were getting rich, but just maybe they are operating above board and taking care of their people.

Edited * to remove soap box

I'm sure that Aldora is a top notch shop, but the blanket statement really proves nothing. "You get what you pay for" is not a fact - just a catchy phrase with questionable histories.

Most of these statements are correct but it is legitimate crap to say that 65-70usd payed to some smaller dive shops makes it impossible to pay for support for the staff. If the shop decides to do it then the dms make less money. Period. I know several small ops that pay like this. They also have smaller volume boats, and maybe a little less 'service given'. Some still do the full meal deal. The owners make less money but stay busy. There is a lot of self horn blowing going on here!!!!!

Yeah it seems like a DM call really. Undertable seems appealing as the DM gets more take home.

 

[Mike]

"You get what you pay for" is not a fact - just a catchy phrase with questionable histories.

Removing somebody the victim of a conman from the equation and I have a hard time finding examples of anybody paying too much for something. In my experience most people who are in denial of the fact that you always get what you pay for are the same people who undervalue their most important asset they have, which is time. - just my opinion

 

[DandyDon]

Removing somebody the victim of a conman from the equation and I have a hard time finding examples of anybody paying too much for something. In my experience most people who are in denial of the fact that you always get what you pay for are the same people who undervalue their most important asset they have, which is time. - just my opinion

Huh? Simply pick your favorite dive computer, then look for it on google shopping. You can pay less or more, but you get the same thing.

 

[deepstops]

Huh? Simply pick your favorite dive computer, then look for it on google shopping. You can pay less or more, but you get the same thing.

You may get the same computer but perhaps not the same level of post-purchase support.

 

[Mike]

You may get the same computer but perhaps not the same level of post-purchase support.

Correct.

One person pays more to ensure a savings of time, the other person pays less and takes the risk if something goes wrong they will lose their time, spending it solving the problem themselves.

Most people live their lives either unaware, or in denial of : Opportunity cost and Value of time.

Most people live their lives following one of two schools of thought : Laws of Abundance or Zero Sum Game, which ever one of those you believe in will effect your opportunity to accumilate wealth, and determine everything you will do in you life.

 

[DandyDon]

You may get the same computer but perhaps not the same level of post-purchase support.

Oh please - same manufacture warranty.

I can shop for a new car locally, find the open I want, then sent requests describing the car to all dealers of that brand - and get a wide variety of prices on the same, exact vehicle parked on a lot.

Sure, good values are worth paying more for. No, paying more is no guarantee of value.

 

[ggunn]

Removing somebody the victim of a conman from the equation and I have a hard time finding examples of anybody paying too much for something. In my experience most people who are in denial of the fact that you always get what you pay for are the same people who undervalue their most important asset they have, which is time. - just my opinion

The thing is, value, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Just because a dive op charges less than another in no way indicates that they are doing anything underhanded, and some ops charge more for amenities that, for some customers, do not warrant the extra expense. The only way that you will always get what you pay for is if you do your homework and know what it is you are buying. Caveat emptor.

 

[scubafanatic]

Agreed, the chandler services required to supply a cruise ship are enormous.

I guess I have to ask, what's a larger, more sustainable business, cruise visitors or divers??

...umm, the Pod People have definitely already won the war to determine the future destiny of Cozumel ! Ever more development kills off more and more reef, diver's spot the decline, wise-up, move on to more remote/less developed venues, tilting the economic scales ever more towards the Pod People sector of the economy...it's a vicious circle of decline for the scuba side of the economy.