why hate safety devices?

[knowone]

And I'm very pleased, (gotta stick with diving not computing), that you
aquaregia understand that posts are for the BENEFIT of everyone and
that mine under yours was not directed at you. Cheers.

"Now that's a knife."

 

[knowone]

And get rid of that sig that only does detriment to
what you do have to offer and I'll post a dive count

 

[Crush]

Just as I interpret every one of your posts ... as the words of a 50-dive expert who's read everything and lacks the practical experience to comprehend most of it. You might actually be able to learn something if you weren't so convinced you already know it all.


OK ... you're missing something ... and I ain't about to waste my time explaining it to you, because you'll just find some nasty way to nitpick words and create another argument ... and I don't have the patience to deal you anymore.

Here's a clue ... one thing you haven't learned from all your book reading is simple arithmetic.

Review what I said ... "and are on the surface a few seconds later"..

A few seconds from 15 feet ... so tell me ... at 30 fpm, how long should it take you to surface from your safety stop? And for extra credit ... if it takes five seconds to surface from 15 feet, what's the ascent rate?

Now ask yourself ... what does rapid ascent from 15 feet to the surface mean to you ... based on all that reading you've done?

I understand it's cold and frozen where you live, and you've probably got a terminal case of cabin fever ... but you can only learn so much from a book, ... at some point you've got to get in the water and learn what the words actually mean.

Or maybe quit trying to be argumentative once in a while and listen when people try to explain it to you.

I generally try to be helpful, ... but in your case, it's just piss in the wind ... to my concern, you're a waste of bandwidth ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

You won't care, but here is why I asked for clarification about your post - I find you to be a very knowledgeable diver. If (almost) anyone else had posted "then they'll be on the surface a few seconds later ... which completely negates any benefit they got from the safety stop" then I would have dismissed this as a generalization. In your case I thought that I was missing something. For example, I was astounded to learn (in part from SB) that you can swap regs from one bottle to another underwater. I had been taught that this was not possible owing to a plug of water under high pressure blowing things apart, but apparently divers have been doing it for years. I learned this on SB, after asking for clarification. I thought that, given the source (i.e., you) that I might have been missing something when it came to your post "then they'll be on the surface a few seconds later ... which completely negates any benefit they got from the safety stop."

Having read your most recent post I realize that this is not the case. A rapid rise to the surface does not nullify entirely (as per your post) your three minute safety stop. A rapid rise to the surface bears the risk of AGE, DCI, etc., but the three-minute safety is not ruined in its entirety.

I will try to steer clear of your future posts, NWGratefulDiver.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

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[redacted]

I was astounded to learn (in part from SB) that you can swap regs from one bottle to another underwater. I had been taught that this was not possible owing to a plug of water under high pressure blowing things apart, but apparently divers have been doing it for years.

Does it concern you at all that this seems to have made sense to you at one time?

 

[Crush]

Does it concern you at all that this seems to have made sense to you at one time?

Not in the least. A plug of water, accelerated by a pressure of 3000 psi, might be quite destructive, in principle.

And it does not concern me that I offered up this tidbit for ******** to poke fun at it. Consider it part of "having a pair." I can admit to errors and fallibility.

I also chose to not inflate my dive count or hide behind some nebulous statement about not counting dives.

 

[Quero]

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[Kern]

I don't hate safety devices. I do dislike alarms though. All that beeping & buzzing & whatnot, I just don't think it's very civil.

 

[Blackwood]

And it does not concern me that I offered up this tidbit for ******** to poke fun at it. Consider it part of "having a pair." I can admit to errors and fallibility.

If everybody worried much about their Scubaboard Street Cred, we'd have a much diminished set of experiences from which to draw information. Everything you know, you learned somewhere.

 

[Thalassamania]

... or you learned by surviving being damnably stupid.