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hmmm...the same 'hypothetical' scenario could be used as a justification to invest in a mini-DPV (dive scooter).

It would make just as much sense as a Spare Air... :rofl3:

:) I guess so but I doubt I'd be able to check that onto a boeing 747.

So I guess I'm looking for the least obtrusive yet worthwhile solution, asking this quite sincerely from a position of relative inexperience (in fact zero experience with such an emergency situation), am I to understand that in fact I shouldn't consider bumbling about with any alternate air supply (Spare Air or other Pony) excepting my buddies if they're in arms reach. So "OOA....Can't reach my buddy...CESA" is the absolute best response.
 
If you have a redundant air source... use it..... to reach the surface, not your buddy.

If the air source doesn't get you to the surface, then what's the point?

Calculate your accelerated (panicked) SAC in order to determine what size redundant air source you need for your planned diving depths. I'm pretty sure that Spare Air won't fulfill your requirement.
 
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There we go. Note that isnt average depth/ascent times and assumes a normal SAC of 25slm. Stressed can double that. Most agencies recommend allowing 1 minute on the bottom to sort out the problem, sort your head out and start to get out of there too which isnt factored into that,
 
What do we think about the testimonials from people who claim it's saved their life etc..

Go back and read those so called testimonials. Really read them properly. Would you take gear advice from those train wrecks? I don't know whether to laugh or shake my head in sorrow when reading them.
 
It is a personal choice.

It is all relative;

No redundant air vs # spare air

If you have 1 min. of air it can save your life compared to nothing.

13 cu. vrs. 3 cu. This provides a wider safety margin, slow ascent, safety stop, deeper dives.

19 cu. vrs 13 cu. Even more of a safety margin.

30-40 cu. vrs 19 cu Even wider margin, deeper dives, longer safety stops etc.

I guess the best is a doubles set-up using the second 80 cu for a back up.

The advantages of spare air are, it is easy to bring with you so you are more likely to take it on every dive, it is light to carry, provides 10 to 40 breaths depending on sac. rate, depth, one breath of water and you're in uncontrolled panic, 10 breaths may be enough to get you to your dive buddy or to the surface, it makes you feel a bit more relaxed while you dive because you know you have a bit of added safety. Disadvantages, not much air, not much time, not enough for deeper dives.

Advantages of larger amounts of air. More air, more time, deeper safer dives, may save your life because of extra margin, etc. Disadvantages; bigger, heavier tanks, so you may not want to lug them around with you so you may be inclined not to bring them with you. Change trim and weighting, add to task loading, can cause imbalance while walking in and out of beach.

It is a personal choice. How many breaths do you want, will you bring it on every dive, are you willing to carry the extra weight and bulk, bigger tanks will change your trim there will be a little learning curb, how deep, etc.
 
It is a personal choice.

It is all relative;

No redundant air vs # spare air

If you have 1 min. of air it can save your life compared to nothing.

13 cu. vrs. 3 cu. This provides a wider safety margin, slow ascent, safety stop, deeper dives.

19 cu. vrs 13 cu. Even more of a safety margin.

30-40 cu. vrs 19 cu Even wider margin, deeper dives, longer safety stops etc.

I guess the best is a doubles set-up using the second 80 cu for a back up.

The advantages of spare air are, it is easy to bring with you so you are more likely to take it on every dive, it is light to carry, provides 10 to 40 breaths depending on sac. rate, depth, one breath of water and you're in uncontrolled panic, 10 breaths may be enough to get you to your dive buddy or to the surface, it makes you feel a bit more relaxed while you dive because you know you have a bit of added safety. Disadvantages, not much air, not much time, not enough for deeper dives.

Advantages of larger amounts of air. More air, more time, deeper safer dives, may save your life because of extra margin, etc. Disadvantages; bigger, heavier tanks, so you may not want to lug them around with you so you may be inclined not to bring them with you. Change trim and weighting, add to task loading, can cause imbalance while walking in and out of beach.

It is a personal choice. How many breaths do you want, will you bring it on every dive, are you willing to carry the extra weight and bulk, bigger tanks will change your trim there will be a little learning curb, how deep, etc.

Well this really hits the note for me - it's exactly what I'm trying to weigh up, of course I can see all the sense in the arguments that more air is better but for someone who only dives abroad (it's just too cold in the UK :)) and already struggles to pack all the kit it's got to be a small light addition. For some reason I also don't like the thought of another hose dangling around and a second reg hooked up somewhere - having said that I haven't tried it so that may be an unfounded worry.
 
So I guess I'm looking for the least obtrusive yet worthwhile solution, asking this quite sincerely from a position of relative inexperience (in fact zero experience with such an emergency situation), am I to understand that in fact I shouldn't consider bumbling about with any alternate air supply (Spare Air or other Pony) excepting my buddies if they're in arms reach. So "OOA....Can't reach my buddy...CESA" is the absolute best response.

Get a 13cf or 19cf and mount it aside your main tank. Switch your weight to the opposite side to balance you trim. It will feel like it is not even there. The only time you will notice the pony is when you actually need to use it.

Whenever I am scuba-ing. I am spearing. I do not sling since I want both of my hands free to hunt. My pony is hard mounted onto my main tank and the regulator is on the opposite side of my air2 on a ring.

Sometimes I forget I am even carrying a pony.
 
Blackwood

rather it be back mounted or sling on the side - in respect to my palm and 5 digits - with either way - both my hand are free.

what I was trying to say was that with the pony in sling mode. while I am stringing a fish or loading the gun (center access). the pony always gets in the way of my arm's reach. I just rather have the pony on my back and totally out of the way.
 
Buy two second hand BUDDY BCD's by A. P. Valves with integrated bottles and
Auto Air breathing capability for the same price as a spare air on PomBay.
 
https://www.shearwater.com/products/perdix-ai/

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