My venture into Sidemount.

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No, it was intended for you...

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The blue tank is a stage bottle.

Dive-aholic...hmm...After seeing your picture I think that my description wasn't clear and hence the misunderstanding. What I was attempting to detail was that the primary sidemount tank gets clipped to lower-chest Dring and on the rear rail. Stage/Deco gets clipped to upper-chest Dring and Dring on waistband at hip. The result is the the tanks appear "stacked" with the Stage/Deco positioned more or less on top of the primary sidemount tank. The end result is just like how it appears in your picture.

Is there something else that I am missing? Thanks
 
If you're referring to swimming more than 2 stages, I have no input. I think that's silly, just use a scooter.

Or do a setup dive.

Even in sidemount I have found that with more then two stages swimming you almost negate the extra gas because of the drag. DPV rides are different, but then again not many real "sidemount caves" can be dove effectively with a DPV...
 
Tanks for the insite into sidemounts.

I have been playing with these for a while and for much of the same reason. Crawling around on the rocks in Tobermory Ontario made me realize that if I went for a tumble I would not be getting up without some help and probably back, leg, head, hand, etc. injury.

I have built a stainless steel back plate, 11gauge that weighs in a just over 14 # to that I added 2 long loops to the bottom of the plate that, when sitting upright raise it about 4 inches. I have opened the tank strap loops as far apart as possible to still be able to thread them into a dive rite venture 28# wing and to triangulate my back mount tank to fasten and stablize.

I use a bare nst dry suit for extreme cold and a white fusion for not so cold, both seem to do well. I have attached a 13# argon bottle to the back plate on the left side so that when the kit goes on (no tanks or maybe one on my back) I can hook into the suit for my inflation. This removes one hose from the twin side mounts. Or if I have a tank on my back I can additionally rig that to the wing and be ready to dive with air and use the side mounts as depth supply.

The ss loops on the bottom of my plate are 1/4 inch round and hold the plate up when vertical. They hold the lower big clips on the bottom of the tanks and are very easy to find. The tops of the side tanks hook up to the 'D' rings on my shoulder straps at chest level. I have also placed 'D' rings at my shoulders so I can adjust my trim by hooking to the shoulder rings and the tank slides up the plate loops. As you know when you do this in the water the weight and movement of the tanks is childs play. I am only using Al 80's for this learning experience with a swing of -6 to +2 of bouyancy. My 130's are another story.

Without a tank on the back the wing is held in place with an Al plate sized to fit into the centre of the wing. I did not use the wing at all on the last dive but my suit to adjust and even to trim. That is another story.

One last thing and this is where I may need some help or constructive/distructive critique. I have a hard time doing an over the shoulder shut down. I have tried every configuration from twin manifolds to 'H' valves and slob nobs. The slob nob works on the 'H' valve but I will need 3 for the manifold and that will be a management nighmare. Using the side mount rig I have mounted the back tank upside down. Remember the loops? They allow me to support the backplate and mount the tank (upsidedown) with the first stage and hoses not being used as a rest. The loops hold the whole kit up. Shut downs are easy and this tank can be used for my wing. Using this configuration the back tank holds the wing, is straped to the back plate and my Al sandwich plate is taken off.

I am using a dive rite XL harness and have woven it into the plate similar to a Holgarian. I have been perfecting it through the use of both 3 and 2 tanks (Al at this point). I am now rerigging the sidemount tanks with straps and cams to be able to add a few # of weight to the bottom of the sidemount tanks.

The maximum pressue diff between the sidemounts has been 500# and I have not seen any reason to go shorter. There is no yaw.

To summerize I have up to 200% redundant air supply, can shut down any primary easily, with a lift bag I have 200% redundant lift, My trim is adjustable in 3 steps, and my walk or jump into the water is very quick so much so that my buds with the steel 108 twins on their backs are becoming inquisitive.

Cheers.
 
Or do a setup dive.
I'm not against the idea, but with so many caves having cool stuff that don't require a setup dive, it's hard to get motivated, at least with the limited amount of cave I've seen so far :D
 
Thats kinda how I feel about scooters :P
 
Dive-aholic
The back tank mount is upside down, not the side mounts. This is a modification to allow me to shut that tank down if I need to. I do not do any cave diving but made this rig up for advanced nitrox and deco diving. with 3 80s I now have lots of gas and mix variations.
 
So you have 3 independent regs? There are better ways that have been around for a while. You might want to just try either larger steel tanks or sidemounting with a stage bottle.
 
Well...I thought I would give my report of SM training with 6 tanks (2 primary sidemounts, and 2 stage/deco tanks on each side). I dive the Hollis SMS with dual bladders (bladder is a dounut - complete circle). The reason that I mention this is that for the first time I actually could feel the full outline of the wing with it needing to be inflated significantly for the added weight. The bottom of the wing suddenly jumped out like a lumbar support...not quite as comfortable though.

To say the least I felt like a pregnant pig with all the tanks. I was about as streamlined as a mobile home. This is first time that I can really ever say that I felt the drag and had to push. My bouyancy was solid, but gear management was more challenging with the dual inflators (one over each shoulder) coupled with the light cord. Added to the fun was that somehow my screws in the goodman handle stripped out of my lighthead so it became a royal pain doing drills putting on and taking off tanks while having to hold or dangle the light. Wrapping it over my neck became one more item to manage whil doing long-hose drills.

My take on the experience is that 4 tanks are really comfortable in Sidemount. The 5th and 6th tank significant increase the gear management requirements as well as change the dive fundamentals (lot of work...definitely lost the "seal-like" sense of ease of movement). That said it is definitely possible and nice to have the option. If I were to consistently carry more than four tanks then clearly sticking two on the back makes it cleaner and easier to manage.
 
I am making some more changes to my setup. I am now clipping in my tanks to the 6" ring bungees, but not using the chokers. Without the chokers, the tanks hang very loose, so I am adding another set of bungees, to wrap under the valve to pull the tank in.

I was having issues with getting the tanks clipped in with the chokers, and keeping the tanks in as tight as I wanted them to. I added quick links and that made it easy enough, but then the tanks were not pulled in tight enough for my liking.
 

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