Time for own gear, critique my wish list

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I would also suggest a 60" (actually for me 66" is a little better) primary reg hose, routed just like the 7 ft hose will be except not under the can light. This will get you used to the same sort of routing that the hogarthian rig uses for cave diving, and you'll like air sharing much better with the longer hose.

The reasoning behind the unbalanced secondary is kind of old school. One reason, (which BTW is not valid) is that as simpler regs they are less failure prone. That's just not really true. Another reason is that unbalanced regs will free flow sooner in the event of 1st stage HP seat failure. This keeps the primary 2nd stage from being blown out. This reason is theoretically valid but truthfully that kind of HP seat failure on modern regs is extremely rare, and even balanced 2nds have enough downstream bias to not blow hoses.

The only potential problem with the legend and an unbalanced secondary is the supposed "overbalanced" crap, in which IP rises more than the change in ambient pressure. This is a marketing gimmick that does nothing to improve performance; on the balanced 2nd, the reg simply uses the increase in IP to force a little more pressure against the seat. However, an unbalanced secondary will start to flow if the IP rises past a certain point, so I don't know if the "overbalanced" bit will cause that. IMO, I'd avoid the whole thing by buying a different reg. The titan is probably a good choice if you want to stay with aqualung.

The wing is probably fine, I just have heard so many horror stories about OMS customer service that I would not buy their gear. There are so many good ones out there, DSS, oxycheq, halcyon if you're loaded, even dive rite wings (the new travel wing for example) that it doesn't make sense to buy anything substandard.


It is really great to see a new diver going for a hogarthian set up. You are WAY ahead of the curve!
 
Great information Colliam7 and mattboy, looks like I have more research to do which I don't mind one bit.

Sounds like too many people prefer the long hose for me not to give it a shot... I have a funny feeling I'll probably like it as well.

Don't forget your SMB, or Signalling tube! Highly recommended. There are many different brands, DAN, Zeagle, OMS, OxyCheq, Hollis, etc.
Ah I absolutely forgot about this. Probably one of the first things I should think about as it could be a life saver!

If you have access to Aqualung, check out Apeks.
I do! I am assuming you are referring to regs? I haven't heard much about Apeks regarding their other equipment.
 
I do! I am assuming you are referring to regs? I haven't heard much about Apeks regarding their other equipment.

Personally I think Apeks regs are definitely some of the best out there.

Apeks regs are the only brand I haven't seen or been able to make free flow in cold water. The ones I've made freeze up are the SP MK25 & G250, Cressi Black Ice, DR RG3000 and Hurricane, a couple of Hollis regs...

I had SP MK 25 on my pony but even detuned it would freeze up, now it is just for the pool.

Check out the Apeks XTX50 series.

A lot of tech folks like these, and they like them for a reason. Frankly if they are good enough for the North Atlantic waters off of England, they'll work in our waters.
 
Checked out Apeks yesterday... compared prices in the shop found that the Legend is cheapest, then Apeks XTX200, then SP S600 is most expensive... don't think I could go wrong with any of these choices. Still trying to decide on a secondary... I'd rather not dish out a ton on a secondary if I can get away with something cheap but reliable.
 
Checked out Apeks yesterday... compared prices in the shop found that the Legend is cheapest, then Apeks XTX200, then SP S600 is most expensive... don't think I could go wrong with any of these choices. Still trying to decide on a secondary... I'd rather not dish out a ton on a secondary if I can get away with something cheap but reliable.

Most divers that a diving doubles or singles with a long hose typically have the same second for both their primary and secondary.

The thought being is you're going to donate your primary and you want your secondary to be something you trust.

How about the Apeks XTX 50?

What first does the SP S600 come with?

I had an SP MK25/G250 first. They claimed the MK25 was approved for cold water because it had T.I.S., a teflon sleeve or something. Even detuned that damned thing would freeze up all the time in water less than 45degF. I know only use that one in the pool.

The SP MK17 is a diaphram first which is better sealed. Think about that one if you are going to be in cold water.
 
I looked for the 50 but didn't see it, I'll ask about it next time I get a chance... I didn't get a close look at the S600, but I can check today. You're not the first to suggest two of the same reg... I might as well do it rather than spend money on a reg I will eventually replace.
 
Pretty good choices. If you can - try out some of the gear before you purchase to see if it really suits your needs
[/There is NO ONE AND ONLY ONE RIGHT RIG. And, all of us have our individual preferences.QUOTE].As mentioned before don't skimp on the secondary reg. it's still a life support system.
 
Looked a little into the XTX 50, It sounds like the XTX200 is "top of the line", why do so many prefer the XTX50?

I have the opportunity to "test" some gear this weekend... I plan to continue doing so til I can afford everything!
 
Looked a little into the XTX 50, It sounds like the XTX200 is "top of the line", why do so many prefer the XTX50?

I have the opportunity to "test" some gear this weekend... I plan to continue doing so til I can afford everything!

I believe the 2nd stage of the 200 is smaller, hence less jaw fatigue.

The big difference is in the first stage. The XTX50 has a real small swivel 1st stage. The XTX200 has a one piece first stage.

I don't know the actual nomenclature of the two first stages.

The XTX50 1st, allows for better hose routing when it comes to doubles (thinking down the road).

I have the XTX200's and the hoses cross real close to my isolation manifold. When I reach behind my head for my isolation valve I have to make sure I don't accidentally have a hose in my hand.


Link to 200
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Link to 50
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You can get an HOG ("highly optimized gear" or whatever) second stage from tech diving limited right now for pretty cheap. It has what I think every tech diver wants in a second stage - its cheap and light and easy to take apart and put back together underwater. The Salvo second stages were really great like that, but I'm not sure where you'd get one.
 
https://www.shearwater.com/products/teric/
http://cavediveflorida.com/Rum_House.htm

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