Breaking news from the whale wars

[Geoff_H]

Geoff - no conspiracy here...just folks thinking differently than you. Any wiggle room in your genuflecting box of a world? BTW - no need for mommy (mods) here and I appreciate the mods letting the chips lay where they fall in this thread.

Their call, it is a tough job.

Suggests a degree on manliness. Something the Japanese whalers lack.

God, this really is playground stuff. What next, you're going to accuse them of having small penises too? Your Dad is bigger than their Dad? Grow up........

BTW - on the manliness part - the Japanese are only happy to beat the crap out of you if you do something they don't appreciate - like protest whaling.

You speak of "the Japanese" as a collective, are you trying to tar the whole nation with the same brush? If I get beaten up by an American baseball fan I'm not going to accuse the "Americans" of beating me up. Yet if you get beaten up by a (non-manly, lol) Japanese whaler you're saying the Japanese beat up you. I get a sense of racist undertones to your postings on here.

Once again I implore you to DEBATE THE ISSUE. Your playground name calling is boring and just drags the thread off topic.

 

[Geoff_H]

I was listening to the video commentary. Something about gutting it (Ady Gil) was in there. Gigo = guts.

Hawawata is guts, not gigo. As far as I know, gigo isn't a Japanese word. The closest I can think is gaigo which means "foreign language". Are you SURE of your translation or are you making it up to make the transcript sound more damning than it is?

I don't have access to audio on this PC, but when I listened to it the commentary was a straight forward description of events. I don't remember the exact translation but listen out for

mae = front
AG = Ady Gil
honsen = this ship
shi masta = past tense of an event, like "we have collided"

thanks
Geoff

 

[AXL72]

I still think it's reprehensible to kill X1...... As a culture and a seagoing race, I find them to have no respect for Y1. They see it as a obstacle to overcome and control, not as a part of the ecosystem to live in harmony with. Obviously, this is a generalization, but I don't know any individuals from Japan, so I can only go with the behavior I've observed personally. Your mileage will certainly vary.

Frank

Thanks.

I just want to try to be funny. Feel free to kick my bottom later.


Jut for grins and giggles I compared today's paraphrase with a potential paraphrase that could have hypothetically been made about ohhhh, 65 some odd years ago.


X1=whales
Y1=the ocean

or

X2 = chinese
Y2 = the rest of the world

or

X3 = america
Y3 = humanity

or

X4 = sovereign nations
Y4 = other countries

 

[AXL72]

seeing how they have made several other statements that were lies in this report, I'm not 100% sure I believe that either.

In reality, it's bunch of morons out there. Thousands of miles from medical treatment and they decide to play "chicken" with a several thousand ton ship?

dumb asses, regardless of whether whaling is right or wrong.

I said thanks, cause I agree with the most of the conclusions.

Seeing as there is no xray equipment out there, you may be right, that "it felt like some of my ribs are broken". ON the other hand, the crew got jaostled around and knocked down on the back of the boat. Unless the "cook" felt up the ribs and felt the breaks, maybe there are only bruised ribs.

I just dont know, and it seems like a reasonable enough injury considering that only one of the SS crew were injured, and there were no statements of the like, "all" of us crew got broken bones and broken heads...booo hooo@ dem nasssy jap whalers"

 

[Mr.X]

Hawawata is guts, not gigo. As far as I know, gigo isn't a Japanese word. The closest I can think is gaigo which means "foreign language". Are you SURE of your translation or are you making it up to make the transcript sound more damning than it is?

I don't have access to audio on this PC, but when I listened to it the commentary was a straight forward description of events. I don't remember the exact translation but listen out for

mae = front
AG = Ady Gil
honsen = this ship
shi masta = past tense of an event, like "we have collided"

thanks
Geoff

Thanks for the Japanese lesson. Do us a favor and verify what the Japanese commentator is actually saying? My functional Japanese is nowhere up to speed these days as I don't have to deal with Japanese whaler penises too much anymore. Pretty happy about that.

BTW - it is all about penises in this Whale War. The old Japanese penises who own the corporations do not like being told by others what they can and cannot do with their metal phallic symbols out on the water. If anyone truly looked at the economics of this annual "scientific" enterprise you would see it makes zero sense from both a fiscal and scientific perspective. In short, it really isn't about the whales is it? I'd love to take the "gigo" (colloquial term?) out of this sector of the industry.

X

 

[AXL72]

Too true. Acting professional makes boring TV...

I am glad it happened, too, but for another reason.

Now I know not to donate money to SS. Shoot, I can waste my money on expensive toys for myself and f* up the expensive toys myself. Wreckless with "other people's money"...shame shame shame.

sooo, do u all think the insurance money for the "potentially totalled" aby gil will be put towards the debt that was not covered by Bob Barker's $5million for the new SS toy named the Bob Barker?

 

[AXL72]

It's easy for anyone to say what they would or would not do in this situation. Given the cold water, the number of people on-board the SS vessel and the chance of injury or death of those aboard, I have to disagree with you. I can't see how the life of the crew aboard the larger vessel could reasonably be considered to be placed in danger by the smaller one. Using a vessel to ram another is using deadly force against everyone aboard her. The ends don't justify the means.

I'm not defending the dangerous actions of the SS vessel, to the contrary, however deliberately ramming a smaller vessel and claiming that he was "defending himself" is reading too much into what I see evidenced here. What am I missing?

you are misssing a helluv footage showing the approach of the two vessels.

 

[Geoff_H]

Thanks for the Japanese lesson. Do us a favor and verify what the Japanese commentator is actually saying? My functional Japanese is nowhere up to speed these days as I don't have to deal with Japanese whaler penises too much anymore. Pretty happy about that.

My Japanese isn't great either, but from what I can tell it sounded like a straightforward description of what was happening. I can't replay sound on this PC I'm on now, it has no speakers.

Remember these guys were filming with the intention of releasing the video to the outside world - they're hardly likely to be saying "we're getting close, last we time missed this sucker but we're going to ram it and sink those ********s".

BTW - it is all about penises in this Whale War. The old Japanese penises who own the corporations do not like being told by others what they can and cannot do with their metal phallic symbols out on the water. If anyone truly looked at the economics of this annual "scientific" enterprise you would see it makes zero sense from both a fiscal and scientific perspective. In short, it really isn't about the whales is it? I'd love to take the "gigo" (colloquial term?) out of this sector of the industry.

Show me the numbers and I'll agree with you if you're right. It's easy to throw accusations around, but I prefer to deal with facts. If you can show me the fixed and variable costs of mounting these expeditions, the depreciation schedule for the boats and the realized P&L from selling whale meat then we have the basis for a discussion.

Until then, I can equally easily claim the opposite.

 

[OldNSalty]

as much as I hate you for not attempting to stop for me while I am on my bike, I can't help but to chuckle and slightly laugh my *** off at this post. Like your previous posts, it is kinda funny.

Glad I can be there to entertain.

 

[AXL72]

Did we read the same article?

"We were engaging with the whaling ships pretty much the whole day, especially the Nisshin Maru, the big factory ship.

"We hadn't been quite successful because there was whaling going on throughout the whole day and at a certain point we had to discontinue because we were running low on fuel.

"We decided to go back to Hobart to refuel, but before that we decided to wave to the Bob Barker, our sister ship, to say goodbye to the crew on there because we hadn't seen each other for a long time.

"As the Bob Barker was moving along, two of the harpoon ships moved along as well and there was the Shonan Maru passing us as well.

"All of a sudden that ship decides to steer straight to us at full speed.

Not a sworn statement. If you belivive this, then you know that the starship enterprise is out in space already cruising the galaxies, too.