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The chart is titled "Causes of Scuba Fatalities"

' Nuf said

It was the cause of the fatality, NOT the root cause of the accident. NUF SAID
 
Wow - just found this thread today - the original post is a very good one.
I keep in good shape - run 10km 3 times a week and add weight training 2-3 times, kempo once a week. I get an annual physical - boy is that fun......
So I am writing to say thank you for the suggestion of a stress test - I will get it done.
 
It was the cause of the fatality, NOT the root cause of the accident. NUF SAID

Hello?

The heart attack caused the death, the heart attack would have been much less likely if the diver was fit.
 
Hello?

The heart attack caused the death, the heart attack would have been much less likely if the diver was fit.

OOA, root cause. Rapid ascent, root cause. Equipment failure, root cause. Situation beyond scope of training, root cause.

Cardiac arrest, result. Drowning, result. etc

The 2 are different. If I made the statment that all people who eat pickles die.(which is true, we all die anyway) I could thereby see a dead person and make the statement, must have eaten pickles. Does that make it true? The discussion was leaning towards if an experienced diver would be less likely to die than an inexperienced diver in good shape. While true if a person was both in shape and experienced the likelyhood of death would be less. However that is not the way the conversation was going. The cause of death and the root cause are very different.

Goodbye
 
While true if a person was both in shape and experienced the likelyhood of death would be less.

Thank you for agreeing with the point I have made from my very first post on this thread.
 
The discussion was leaning towards if an experienced diver would be less likely to die than an inexperienced diver in good shape...

No, I don't think anyone was trying to make that point. Perhaps those who are a bit on the larger side would like that to be the point but I don't recall anyone asserting that.
 
Thank you for agreeing with the point I have made from my very first post on this thread.

Never disagreed with that part. Your other conclusions and presentation were what I disagreed with.

I wish you safe diving. And oh, by the way, if you can't see well (need longer arms) get some glasses. You might also try losing some of that excess body fat. You'll live longer!
 
Never disagreed with that part. Your other conclusions and presentation were what I disagreed with.

I wish you safe diving. And oh, by the way, if you can't see well (need longer arms) get some glasses. You might also try losing some of that excess body fat. You'll live longer!

Safe diving to you too.

Getting a pair of progressives is on my "to-do" list. My vision has really dropped off as of late.

I try to get on the treadmill at least 3x a week for a 45 minute aerobic workout but I'm admittedly lax in that regard. With a diving trip coming up in January, and with my girlfriend completing her OW certification, I need to be in extra good shape so I can better contend with any situations that may arise.
 
Hey Idoc give it a rest.

I am not so shallow that I pick my dive partners by how they look, or assume that because someone is not rail thin they are not an athlete, or someone who doesn't look like an Olympian is a heart attack waiting to happen.

The point of the original post was to ask all of us to look in the mirror, and see what we can to be safer divers. I think fitness and health screening is an undervalued area where we can all improve. Certain not the only or even the most important thing we can do to be safer.

I had a friend die during RB training a few years ago. He was overweight, a smoker, and got short of breath untying the boat from the dock. He had a heart attack during training.

Diving is great training for diving.

If you can't dive...There are other things you can do.

Like play Underwater Hockey. He he

Stay safe out there.
 
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