Who moved the boat at Big bay point?

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Are the divers not being an asset to the economy? Restaurants, etc?

No,

You would have to know the area, the Town of Innisfil has a largely populated area south of the dive site. To get to this dive site most people would come up the highway and come down the road Big Bay Point RD, which is north of the main town. When they get off the highway you are in the city of Barrie and most fuel up and eat there..

The area has one little store that i have never been in myself, and a small resturant which is going away from the main road and highway.

Most will get off the highway come straight down this country road which starts in Barrie ends in Innisfil and then after the dive will take the same country road back into the town of Barrie where they will get gas at the many stations and food at the local restaurants and pubs.


You should be able to view it here.

The town area with the restaurants and public beaches that are with in the Innisfil area are about 6 blocks south by a the area called Alcona.
 
So am I, and my first deco stops are deeper than that :wink:

Forgive him...he's American.
 
If site is decent, SAFE for divers and we are not abused verbally, I would have zero issue with having to pay a reasonable fee for parking. Heck, I pay for parking at Humber Bay park and it really is not a great site.

But, I think the way they want to see it is where diving is just not allowed. I have never dove there because of the issues that have been brought up over the past year. I have enough drama.....I do not need to add to it in diving.
 
See thats the problem. People are getting bent out of shape that they are trying to stop divers.

The reality of it is, this is a small area at the end of a service road. My understanding was it was for emergency vehicles back in the day. Pretty much just a road way leading to a dock in the middle of a huge residential area, a place that rescue boats could drop off there victims to awaiting transportation.

this area is not a kept up parking lot, it at the best of times tends to be a muddy opening, If correct parked you can slot in 8-10 cars. Which is where the issues are coming.

Any given weekend in the summer you will have 20+ cars parked here some are locals using the area but 90% of them are divers whom do not live within the town... Blocking access to the dock, blocking resident drive ways and causing general traffic head aches.

The local councilors has been pleading to the divers to back off, come back during the less attractive times for the locals, car pool do something.. he has gotten pretty much no assistance and has been forced to where he is. Its been an on going issue for years!

This pas saturday alone, as i have said My dive buddy and I showed up at just about 9am.. to find the last parking spot to find cars parked in wired angles and to find that of the 20+ divers there we had never seen one of them before... Which is hard to believe when we dive there 3-4 times a week and know the local shops and instructors.

Paying for parking there - was something they thought up last year to put in wireless units that you would park buy a ticket and display it in your window.. However s Steve said above people will pay it. The 20+ cars are going to be willing to pay the few bucks to park there cars there for that time frame, which again they are there before locals are even out of bed and we still have the issue at hand, The local's are not able to use the resources they are paying for.

I really hate to say it, but the divers using the area for personal use don't always seem to be the issue i mean they are the same guys/ girls who come out just about every night/ weekend.. we are the same ones who do the cleanups, run the lines, maintain the lines and pick up after the others.

The odd shop that is there from time to time is not always the issue at hand.

Its when you get that really nice weekend, 9am and you have 3 dive shops and 2 dive clubs jocking for space... You have the entire parking area full of cars double parked, You have trucks parked on the beach, you have a line of cars going up a already single lane road and the local who live there can't get into there homes!

And what happens.

Out of town shops ( Non with in this cities limits ) come into this city, use there facilities - limit the use of the area to the people who are paying good money to live there for that reason and then they take off at the end of there day and dump all there money into another cities income only because they are located better.

And one thing that drives me up a wall is!

10 Divers for from one class all show up spend an hour talking as friends, get in and do a 30 min dive and then spend 2 hours talking about it... MOVE Your butts out of the parking area.. Take it to the local restaurant and discuss the dive over some food and drinks! It's a very limited area and out of the 6 hours the area is taken up diving is only occourying for an hour of it.
 
Well then, that's the bigger problem. TANSTAAFL

NetDoc, what does TANSTAAFL mean?

Where the dock is situated does make it more conducive to frequent the establishments in Barrie rather than Innisfil, but I'm sure we can't say that no divers contribute to the economy of Innisfil. It is also a fairly short drive from Toronto, so many divers may not even stop in Barrie or Innisfil. Yes, divers contributing little to the economy is definitely part of the problem.

The Ontario Underwater Council (OUC) is discussing the matter tomorrow at their meeting and will try to have a plan together to represent divers at the Innisfil council meeting on Wednesday. They don't have much time to take action on this one day after their meeting, but will do their best.

I personally have not been diving at Big Bay Point since a major accident there 4 or 5years ago. We lost a young woman student diver who was hit by a boat and killed instantly. There is WAY too much boat traffic IMHO for divers at BBP and I stay the heck away from it. There have also been many close calls. I'm not sure the new boating licence will help matters enough either.
 
TANSTAAFL is an acronym for the adage "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"
 
The Ontario Underwater Council (OUC) is discussing the matter tomorrow at their meeting and will try to have a plan together to represent divers at the Innisfil council meeting on Wednesday. They don't have much time to take action on this one day after their meeting, but will do their best.

I personally have not been diving at Big Bay Point since a major accident there 4 or 5years ago. We lost a young woman student diver who was hit by a boat and killed instantly. There is WAY too much boat traffic IMHO for divers at BBP and I stay the heck away from it. There have also been many close calls. I'm not sure the new boating licence will help matters enough either.

The OUC has a habit of dragging there feet on many things. This issue has been resent for years as well as other issues. The fact it took them almost a year to get my official statement when i was hit was ridiculous!

Yes i agree that BBP is rather busy during the summer with boat traffic, its not busier than any other dive site with in simcoe.. The morrison, Minets point, johnsons beach all have boat traffic and risk.

Like everything, we weigh the risk involved and make our educated decisions.
 
NetDoc, what does TANSTAAFL mean?
Yes, it does mean "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. If there is no perceived benefit to the township, then there is no reason for them to accommodate divers. I agree that there has to be SOME commerce, even if it's only filling up gas, but the locals have to be able to SEE that benefit for it to matter.
 

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