Open water dive PADI in Bangkok HELP!!!

[Bowmouth]

I haven't and dont think my friends did, but in my experience thats nothing more than a further waste of time.

PADI will act upon PADI members that "bend" the rules but can only do so if they receive a formal complaint. Gross violations of standards may result in being expelled from PADI.

 

[Apecks]

Did your friend make any formal complaints about this to PADI HQ (QA Dept.)?

No I do not think he did. He put it down to another this is thailand experience and moved on.

 

[stevenl]

I prefer:

B = Bangkok
W = Women
A = Are
R = Real
F = Fun

And, PenguinTom, you said TWO shops? Who's the other off your list and why?

Make sure you bet the order correct next time.

I use 2:
B = Bangkok
W = Women
R = Really
A = Are
F = Fellas; or

B = Beautiful (or brown, black, whatever)
W = Women
R = Really
A = Are
F = Fun.

 

[Batfish]

I really must say something.

I like many movies that feature Bruce Willis. The Fifth Element - one of my favourites. Die Hard and Die Hard 2, yes! And he was in Sin City and Pulp Fiction, cool! 6th Sense, Armageddon also good. I am sure he has done some stinkers too, but really.

I do not believe anyone can do a 2 day open water course. It's impossible. 3 full days is normally fine, we do it that way, but if a student needs more pool time to get comfortable, we extend to 4 days. We normally have very small classes, 1 or 2 students. If there are 3 or 4 students, then 4 days makes more sense, as the pool does take longer. We don't do more than 4 in one class anyway.

 

[stevenl]

I do not believe anyone can do a 2 day open water course. It's impossible.

Totally agree.

When I first started working we did open water courses in 5 days. And that was provided they had read the manual and answered the knowledge reviews, otherwise we would simply send them home (hotel) to finish.

Here we prefer to conduct the courses in 4 days. With 2 days boat we only do 4 days, with 1 day beach and 1 day boat we also offer 3 days. And I do notice a big difference in the courses, students are better prepared and turn out better divers if they spend 2 days doing pool practice compared to just one day.

 

[Ex-Aquanaut]

There actually is a way to do a 2-day OWC, thanks to eLearning.

We, too, offer a 3-day option for those that are really pressed for time, although we tell the customers we don't recommend it. However, now, if they do eLearning, they can do confined water and Dive 1 the first day and Dives 2-4 the second day.

Voila... a 2-day Open Water course.

Oh, Steven.... thanks for remixing my letters. It was pretty late when I posted that!

And finally, when you get into discussing the merits of Bruce Willis movies, you know the thread has completely gone off topic. (But I do like some of his flix, too...)

 

[stevenl]

There actually is a way to do a 2-day OWC, thanks to eLearning.

With e-learning we offer the course in 3 days, never in 2.

 

[Ex-Aquanaut]

We've never done one either, but, if you think about it, if you do a 3-day, with the first day being classroom only and then days 2-3 doing confined and open, there's not really a lot of difference.

 

[stevenl]

if you do a 3-day, with the first day being classroom only and then days 2-3 doing confined and open, there's not really a lot of difference.

I really don't like those courses. Get the students in the water on at least 2 different days, that makes a hell of a difference in their performance. And one day theory is for me not an option, we're not doing that. I want our students diving, not sitting in a classroom, and a full day theory is too much anyway.

 

[lord khram]

I do not believe anyone can do a 2 day open water course. It's impossible.

I completely agree Batfish, and also with the similar statement made by Bowmouth, but there are open water courses and there are 'open water courses'.
These were being done with no E learning, and in 2 not very long days. I did my OWC in the UK many years ago and it took me 3 days + 2 days for the 4 open water training dives. What we did would be utterly impossible to complete in 2 sessions of around 6-7 hours.

Aquanauts also made a statement:

There actually is a way to do a 2-day OWC, thanks to eLearning.

We, too, offer a 3-day option for those that are really pressed for time, although we tell the customers we don't recommend it. However, now, if they do eLearning, they can do confined water and Dive 1 the first day and Dives 2-4 the second day.

Voila... a 2-day Open Water course.

Need I say any more?