Answer on Bonaire yes, on Roatan help, first timers

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Misc last minute first timer questions,

After seven straight years going to Bonaire, we are trying Roatan, specifically CCV. So we have a few questions both about diving and food we are staying at PM beach house five and we are cooking. Hold the comments on the fact we are cooking, we actually like to cook. 9 and yes I posted on the CCV chat page too)

Diving question:

1. My spouse used got nitrox certified and wants me to do this. Is there a need to dive nitrox in CCV? How are the lessons?

Food questions:

1. EldonÃÔ grocery: hours and days of operation? (It is not on the web site)
2. Is there a vegie/fruit truck nearby where the CCV water taxis drops you on the main part of Roatan?
3. Best timing to go to the grocery store, please I know we can put in a list, but my family has specific requests they like to personally shop for. I am thinking on the way in from the airport? And just get a cab the rest of the way?

Take out food questions:

1. Best rotisserie chicken?
2. Best tortillas or whatever the local bread is?

Thanks for any answers and any other suggestions.

Lydia
 
I'll address the diving.

I think with the cooking and shopping that you have planned, there will be very little need for the use of nitrox.

I dive the entire week at CCV on air, I do 5x a day, I do not need to do decompression stops. A few divers descend for longer and deeper dives past my general 65' limit. Most of my time is spent at 45fsw or less. Why? That's where the cool micro stuff lives- and that's why you are diving the South side of Roatan.

If you are doing just three dives in a day- and that might be more than most Playa Miguel "chefs" get done, nitrox would not be required.

It would be a great place to get the certification, the Instructors there are great. It's quick and after a short classroom period, the rest are rolled into your normal recreational dives.

Some folks are about to tell you that nitrox gives you an extra margin of deco safety, it makes you feel frisky (Michael Jackson used it) and it extends your bottom time. Whatever.

All I'm going to tell you is that it will not affect your profiles at CoCoView- unless you have to go to 75+ on every dive and be a "sand checker".

A valuable cert, a good place to acquire it- but just because a tool is available... it doesn't mean that it is required to perform a task. The Southern shallow Sun drenched walls of Roatan are shallow enough that it's not necessary.
 
Thanks for the reply.

Diving. Yes 3 dives a day on average is what we do. We dive air only on Bonaire. And we do tend to stay shallow, less then 60 or so for a far amount of the dive as in Bonaire that is where most of the cool fish and reef is located.

Maybe will get the nitrox as we are headed to the Maldives in the fall and they like to do nitrox on the manta ray dives. Sitting a 60ft for a straight hour.

Hopefully someone will answer the food questions. We have a routine that makes kitchen time about 15 min max a meal. Food buffets are a problem for me, I have NO willl power not to return for 2nd and 3rds.

Now the question is... are there 63 or 50s ???

TIA.. Lydia
 
I disagree with RoatanMan about Nitrox. We both, my and hubby, use nitrox whenever we can for the safety factor.... the less nitrogen you are absorbing, the bettter for you! We did 4-5 dives per day and we actually approached deco a few times. We ended a few dives early because of it. Some of the gorgeous reefs do go deep, like 80-90' but no one usually stays at that depth long. BUT dives like Calvin's Crack and Mary's Place are so cool you will want to go down that deep for awhile to enjoy them. (yes, Roatanman, I know you have been there a million times and they are no big deal to you) We loved both of those dives, as well as others, that had a deeper area to explore at the beginning of the dive.

Me and hubby are also photo/video folks, so we go slow and check everything out. We also stay down for the hour max allowed on the reef dives and then the shore dives we stay as long as we want. That is why we find Nitrox to be helpful.

Another thing about Nitrox.... this is controversial, Nitrox makes you feel less tired. Yes, it does, I don't care what the "official studies" say. It really keeps you from getting tired by the end of the week of diving. As some of us nitrox junkies like to say - it gives you more energy for the exciting surface interval romps. ;):cuddles::dance3::love:

robin:D
 
...We both, my and hubby, use nitrox whenever we can for the safety factor....

Ditto!

I couldn't agree with you more Robin! I may just be us, but when I use Nitrox I have a tremendous amount more energy post dive and, as you said, you can get to deeper depths on the first and third dives of the day where limiting the N2 is a benefit! You could just use it on those dives.

CCV gets $8/tank or $125/week for Nitrox. We just pay the $125 and use it all week.

Now the question is... are there 63 or 50s ???

Yes! My wife uses a 63 and comes down PSI/PSI with my 80. You lucky girls!!!!!

Chuck
 
If you did okay in Bonaire on nitrox, and with your stated dive profiles, nitrox will be highly optional along the Southern shores of Roatan. (I say this repeatedly so readers will understand that this does not apply to West End or Northern dive ops- the terrain there is less florid but much deeper)

I don't care what the "official studies" say.

There have never been any "official studies" of this purported effect. Put it in the same category as Split Fins, MOF, Snorkel Wearing, SMB use, Titanium wetsuits, depleted Uranium Regulators and whatever else. Belief transcends science.

(yes, Roatanman, I know you have been there a million times and they are no big deal to you)

I still do the Mary's Place dive and Calvin's Crack, as well. As a matter of fact, the way I do those dives, I am at the 75~90fsw level far longer than most divers. At Mary's, the DM always asks me to go in advance and then wait at 85' for the group to arrive and direct traffic to "the left". I then exit as usual, do another chasm that most swim past, but then double back. While the group is ascending, I'm still piddling around deep in the canyons. I also often do a nearby overhead environment, Scutt's Slot, and slowly ascend to climb in the boat. Don't spend much time on top of the reef, but deep? You bet.

I do the same at Calvin's Crack. I am usually asked to slowly lead the pace, then at the 75fsw exit, I hover and point the oncoming line of people up the wall. After everyone has passed, I go into that "other" blind crack, and then reverse to do Calvin's backward. I spend appreciably longer times at depth than most any other diver... on air.

Where anyone can get into deco is on Dive #4, the afternoon drop-off dive. It is usually done along CCV Wall, and if you watch the experienced divers there, nitrox or not, they will keep it shallow. Why? Again- that's where the cool stuff is. Last visit there, K8sMate and Liz and I could be seen nosing around no deeper than 45fsw.

This is where we got the most extraordinary images.....



Stuff you simply do not find below the 45' phototropic zone.

You will likely find use for nitrox in the Maldives (I surely did!), but I will guarantee you that you would rather have been doing the cooking yourself during your upcoming Maldives trip. You'll see.:eyebrow:

Get the nitrox cert when you are at CCV. No doubt about it!

I also avoid nitrox when unnecessary for dive profiles because air allows me to exceed the MOD limits of EAN. There's my safety factor.

FRUIT: If you can ascertain when the vendor boats show up at the helicopter landing, they will sell you stuff out of their boat. Just ask Lobo when their schedule is. Along the road west to French Harbour, going through Barrio Fuerte- you are likely to see any number of bodegas selling fruit, veggies and Hello Kitty crap. (Since they are still on analog TV, I predict a huge influx of cheap TV's.)

Eldon's Grocery (in French Harbour) recently remodeled and it looks just like any US grocery store, albeit still suffering the vagaries of intermittent stock supplies. They have abandoned their former religious practice of being closed on Saturday and now keep very reasonable hours. Even though it is open when the CCV Bus passes with a new load of visitors from the airport, it would upset the apple cart to stop. It is a very short (1/2 hr) walk from the CCV landing, and you can get a cab back from shopping when you're done.

The best Roast Chicken? I think a well known West End resident named MarcoA is keeping a running thread alive on SCUBABoard recounting the menus of the many and various west End restaurants. He has also a list of "Best Of" placed- and the roasted chicken category is in there. He is not island-wide travelled as much to know much about the nearby restaurant we at CCV love- "The View". He's got the West End nailed, though! We have a similar thread parked in a different forum on CoCoChat.

Patty Grier, the Instructor who will get you nitrox certified, turned us on to the place hours after it opened. Previously, we used to schlepp 45 minutes to a mountaintop restaurant that had just closed down. Patty is an absolute treasure trove of knowledge on where to get the best of what. People like MarcoA know the West End which is where 90% of the activity and tourist commerce is. Patty knows a bit about that (check with her staff for West End tips), plus she knows French Harbour, Barrio Fuerte, and the lay of the land around CCV as well. She knows the places to go!

Like so many things about CCV, many divers want to have it all laid out beforehand. Since it is indeed Honduras, the forthcoming lack of seemingly vital data is disheartening. RobinT can attest to this- a million questions beforehand and no one could assuage her concerns. Now that she has been there, she's in the same trick bag most of us are... how do you get people to understand? Just relax- it will all fall into place. Any answer given today is likely to be out-of-date by the time you arrive. Just ask Liz, the manager; Lobo, the #1; or any of the staff and you'll get great advice that is current.

Much like nitrox, a lot of CCV divers can't spend a week on the island without going to Geos or Romeos. Over the years, a few of us have slowly brought our friends and groups to The View (Dive Camp went there, I believe) , and it seems to be gaining traction over what was a traditional US flavor (and priced) restaurant (Geos) and offering instead some real island flavor.

Nitrox is spelled nitrox when used thusly in a sentence, it is not a proper noun. There are some other technical aspects of the stuff that are also understandably hard to conceptualize, while trying to get past the original and introductory 1980's marketing hype- which has evolved into broadly accepted conventional wisdom.
 
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Just so I have this right--if I get a Uranium (depeleted of course) Regulator I can use nitrox but not Nitrox? :eyebrow: Entropy you'll love Roatan. We dive Bonaire a lot too and between these two places, well one could spend an awful lotta bottom time breathing most anything. Dang, my analog tv must be acting up again, no channels... // ww
 
Rotisserie Chicken - bit of a ride from Cocoview.
But you'll want to see the West End while there anyway.
They do wrap everything in foil so it technically could be "take out".
Personally I'd look around the West End one night and eat there.
 
My most recent trip we ate at The View. OMG, the coconut shrimp were to die for and you couldn't go wrong with the lobster. The margaritas will kill you, two did me in. Great atmosphere open air (no windows) and a gorgeous view of the north and south shore looking west.
 

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