Using SMB For Backup Flotation

[Scared Silly]

Yeah all of ours are from H as well. When we bought ours they were the best out there. I think some others have taken notice in the past few years. We have two 4.5' and one 3'. I like the little 3' for rec diving as it is just enough to catch the captain attn in easy surface conditions. For everything else there is da big SMB.

 

[Web Monkey]

Good luck with that. Maybe in recreational depths with a hard bottom, there is no issue with this. Go dive a deep wall and see how that works. Your descending to depth and realize you can't stop your descent due to wing failure. Your buddy won't catch you, and you aren't going to catch him. Read the articles on uncontrolled descent.

Uncontrolled descents are always caused by doing something dumb.


However even if I was stupid enough to dive a wetsuit with a negative rig, there's still no point where my buddy and I are more than a small kick away from each other and I have no doubt that I could grab him or that he could grab me.

There are incidents with technical divers plumeting to 250 fsw and crashing into the wreck or bottom. No buddy is going to catch them.

People do dumb things all the time. Diving a negative rig with a wetsuit is one of them. If you don't do it, you can't have the failure.

Terry

 

[mempilot]

Uncontrolled descents are always caused by doing something dumb.

OK genius. If you say so.

However even if I was stupid enough to dive a wetsuit with a negative rig, there's still no point where my buddy and I are more than a small kick away from each other and I have no doubt that I could grab him or that he could grab me.

So, if you were going to dive a deep wall in the Caribbean (water temp 87 F), say TOD of 150 and a MOD of say the abyss, explain to us you equipment choice and exposure protection please? Granted you will have redundant bouyancy, but give the detail of your plan.

People do dumb things all the time. Diving a negative rig with a wetsuit is one of them. If you don't do it, you can't have the failure.

Explain to me how you balance a set of AL doubles into a neutral rig. Are you saying you would only dive doubles with a drysuit, even in 85 deg water? Please explain, as you seem to have an aswer that contradicts logic. BTW, the LB is the redundant lifting source. With a balanced rig, you don't need a redundant lifting source. Let's hear it...

 

[mempilot]

I'm going to go have a coffee while he figures out how to balance a rig to neutral when diving AL doubles with a 3mm wetsuit (drysuit not required) on a dive requiring 160 cf of gas and at least one decompression bottle. No one stated that this should be done without a backup bouyancy device, but his explanation, if he can come up with one, is going to be interesting.

 

[RJP]

Oh wow, I think my last post landed me on RJP's ignore list. Whoops!

How do you figure that? Because I didn't respond within moments?

 

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This thread is becoming a hilarious exchange between those who "get it" and those who don't.

 

[Web Monkey]

Explain to me how you balance a set of AL doubles into a neutral rig. Are you saying you would only dive doubles with a drysuit, even in 85 deg water? Please explain, as you seem to have an aswer that contradicts logic. BTW, the LB is the redundant lifting source. With a balanced rig, you don't need a redundant lifting source. Let's hear it...

I don't do dives with inappropriate equipment or training or preparation or under conditions would make a failure a probable fatality. This means that sometimes I refuse a dive that others would do, but it also means that at the end of the day I get to go home to my wife.

You may feel free to read anything into this that you wish.

Terry

 

[battles2a5]

How do you figure that? Because I didn't respond within moments?

No, mempilot quoted one of your posts after mine and I couldn't find it. I thought you blocked me!! Anyway, glad that's not the case. I'd hate to lose friends over arguing about lift bag techniques

 

[netmage]

I'm going to go have a coffee while he figures out how to balance a rig to neutral when diving AL doubles with a 3mm wetsuit (drysuit not required) on a dive requiring 160 cf of gas and at least one decompression bottle. No one stated that this should be done without a backup bouyancy device, but his explanation, if he can come up with one, is going to be interesting.

I used to dive the hydro this way..., dbl AL80's, al plate, 3mm wetsuit, and a 40 of 50%; neutral at the end.... and if at the beginning of the dive, well within the margin to swim up...

 

[deepstops]

I used to dive the hydro this way..., dbl AL80's, al plate, 3mm wetsuit, and a 40 of 50%; neutral at the end.... and if at the beginning of the dive, well within the margin to swim up...

OMG, and you're still alive, imagine that.
I'll wager cash you could of had a wing failure and tell us all about it the next day.